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Old 07-09-2015, 12:47 PM   #191
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Welcome back, Ron. So it's true the perma-frost has stopped melting?

I was going to duplicate your baffle design using aluminum and rivets but just learned about welding rods that repairs aluminum using a propane torch. Any experience or opinion on that?
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:41 PM   #192
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Welcome back, Ron. So it's true the perma-frost has stopped melting?

I was going to duplicate your baffle design using aluminum and rivets but just learned about welding rods that repairs aluminum using a propane torch. Any experience or opinion on that?
Don't think the perma frost has stopped melting and my burning 378 gal. of gas probably didn't help. Some random sections of road seem to be hugely affected by permafrost, it looks like those sections have a chronic problem. It looks like they have to do major work on a yearly basis to keep them passable.

I have a TIG welder so I've never tried the propane aluminum welding method but I've seen the videos and it seems to work.

My baffles are in two pieces. They overlap so making them fit the space exactly wasn't difficult. I think that it's just as easy to use pop rivets or screws.

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Old 07-09-2015, 02:12 PM   #193
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Some time time last year in one of the earlier threads about the 6.7 cu ft fridge, I suggested that people actually take their Escapes in for warranty service on their fridge. Few did; however, it netted me an entirely new cooling loop and aftermarket fan, all covered under warranty. As it turns out, this still didn't look like it was good enough so I was fortunate enough to get a replacement (now on the way from Dometic). My point is, that many of us love to work on these problems and share our complaints and proposed solutions, but until more of these problem fridges show up at RV centers for warranty repair, Dometic can claim total ignorance of the problem. They do not read all the forum discussions....they're busy marketing their less than adequate fridges. So all the owners continue to complain and/or tinker on their own. I'm one of those also, but I still think it's worth taking these things in for warranty service to see what can be done and go on record as being unhappy with their product.
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Some time time last year in one of the earlier threads about the 6.7 cu ft fridge, I suggested that people actually take their Escapes in for warranty service on their fridge. Few did; however, it netted me an entirely new cooling loop and aftermarket fan, all covered under warranty. As it turns out, this still didn't look like it was good enough so I was fortunate enough to get a replacement (now on the way from Dometic). My point is, that many of us love to work on these problems and share our complaints and proposed solutions, but until more of these problem fridges show up at RV centers for warranty repair, Dometic can claim total ignorance of the problem. They do not read all the forum discussions....they're busy marketing their less than adequate fridges. So all the owners continue to complain and/or tinker on their own. I'm one of those also, but I still think it's worth taking these things in for warranty service to see what can be done and go on record as being unhappy with their product.
I agree that without the consumer properly documenting their issues with Dometc, the company will always have plausible deniability. But I find it hard to imagine that they are so cavalier about the quality and performance of their products as to put a genuinely inferior product into the marketplace. They are a huge global company; I can only imagine how big their R&D department is and how extensive they test their products. As for tracking the several RV and Marine forums where their products are discussed, they'd be crazy not to track every word written (great job for an intern). With some of the feedback coming in on this thread showing positive results with the modifications made, HIGHLY UNSCIENTIFIC data I should note, maybe the issue is how these fridge's are installed. Like Tom ("Kountrykamper") pointed out earlier, none of us can point to one single thing that "cured" our problems, but combined, we've gotten pretty good results.
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Dometic RM8551 insuffucent cooling

Or, they could simply allow the sale of their high performance fridges in North America. This is a much larger market than the ones they sell the high performance fridges in, and for the life of me I can't understand why they don't do it. I guess there's an aversion to profits.
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That is one of the nicest insulation jobs I've ever seen! A couple questions, I see you didn't do the full length baffle was that per Reace? The metal piece I assume was installed by ETI during build and I assume it takes the place of the baffle?
I sure hope you get good results and thanks for taking the time to document your work

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Hi Dave . Thankyou for the nice compliment. Reace before did the reworked baffle and it didn't work , not like what Ron or others have done . However I found where the baffle I had was only at a 15 degree . Tom did a smoke test and found it needed to be 45 degrees . I also found lots from Dometic showing the 45 degree where you have a bigger clearance at back like we have . With a straight wall clearance should be no more then 1 in . Well we all have more due to curve walls etc. The brown piece Escape put on I think acts as a heat sink . I think , I hope with now my fans running I can get the heat out of there to roof. As for the insulation box I made for frig , every Dometic manual I found and the 2 previous Dometics I had all around frig it needs to be insulated . That was why I went to make my walls thicker , like a cooler . That was something that bothered me a year ago so I finally got that accomplished now . I wish I could have gotten the pipe extensions I found but no luck . I will post that information on this thread .Now for my trip soon will give this a try . Pat
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:30 PM   #198
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Don't think the perma frost has stopped melting and my burning 378 gal. of gas probably didn't help. Some random sections of road seem to be hugely affected by permafrost, it looks like those sections have a chronic problem. It looks like they have to do major work on a yearly basis to keep them passable.

I have a TIG welder so I've never tried the propane aluminum welding method but I've seen the videos and it seems to work.

My baffles are in two pieces. They overlap so making them fit the space exactly wasn't difficult. I think that it's just as easy to use pop rivets or screws.

Ron
Really like the baffle you did . I think it is better then wood . Hope my idea's help me and if I can get a couple more degrees out of this I will call it a day . Pat
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Finished up today . All systems work . Fans , electrical , gas , 12 volt . Sealed up back of frig at bottom . Now we will see . I want to thank Tom (Kountry Kamper ) Rich (Zardoz) for taking your time and trying to guide me along . Sorry my scans are so small will try again . If all else fails always have my Penguin cooler along . Pat
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I like that security bar across the microwave, are you planning one for the refer?
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