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Old 08-08-2016, 08:40 PM   #11
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Go for it!

Your plan to put dual 160 w solar panels on the roof is a GREAT idea that you will never regret and dual 6 volt batteries is also. You will easily always re-charge those batteries by mid-morning, no matter how you draw from them during the day. The ETI charge controller is JUST FINE for your setup. At this point don't get hung up about the solar charger technology. What you have will work well. Many owners myself included, make changes later over time and you can too.

I have 3 mounted and adjustable solar panels, four 6 volt batteries, a programmable solar controller , and , and...but we all like to tinker over time. Your plan is GREAT! Go for it!

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Old 08-08-2016, 08:55 PM   #12
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Your plan to put dual 160 w solar panels on the roof is a GREAT idea that you will never regret and dual 6 volt batteries is also. You will easily always re-charge those batteries by mid-morning, no matter how you draw from them during the day. The ETI charge controller is JUST FINE for your setup. At this point don't get hung up about the solar charger technology. Your plan is GREAT! Go for it!

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Old 08-08-2016, 09:17 PM   #13
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The second question is - assuming fully charged dual 6v..... and sunny California towing..... i am guessing that having 160w + a second 160w on the roof could pretty much run the fridge on electrical?
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Yes, you can run the fridge on this setup, at least in full sunlight, in the summer. I have 355W total from three roof-mount panels that will run the fridge without draining the batteries, while towing at least.

You will be surprised at how much difference the time of year and time of day make in producing power from solar panels. Even in sunny California.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:23 PM   #14
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Our tug does a pretty good job of feeding power back, as well (after I had much thicker wire wired in my a towing shop. The stock tow package wire was a joke )
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Please elaborate on your mod of the towing harness. I think I have the same problem with getting output from the truck's alternator to the trailer's batteries.
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Old 08-09-2016, 03:06 AM   #15
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Thanks everyone for the thoughts...... I wasnt planning on the extra $850 CAD ($650-ish USD currently) for the SECOND roof mounted solar panel.... but thinking about how we like to camp, and given that we'll have the all plug inverter and dual 6v, it would be great to never have to worry about power, pretty much ever, it sounds..... even towing with Fridge on electricity.

we would monitor stuff, but 320 watts on the roof would be sweet. GET OUT THE BLENDER HONEY IT'S MARGARITA TIME!

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Please elaborate on your mod of the towing harness. I think I have the same problem with getting output from the truck's alternator to the trailer's batteries.
I discovered (the hard way) that the towing package on the Acura MDX uses super thin wire to get the power back to the trailer connection.

I confirmed this with a senior tech at Acura, who happened to tow things and know about towing.

I went to a nearby trusted hitch shop in Monrovia and they ran super thick wire from the battery back to the hitch, and also wired in some sort of fuse on that wire as protection, somehow. I'm not so hip on the exact details, but they knew what they were doing

I noticed an immediate change when towing our (now sold) Casita..... when towing all day, with the fridge on 12v, after the mod we'd arrive with a 100% charged Casita battery....

before the mod was done, we'd arrive with a 60% discharged Casita battery.

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Many wiring setups have "some sorta fuse thingy" to protect different parts of the electrical system. As I became more familiar with my particular setup, I located the fuses, pulled them apart and noted the fuse being used and got a spare of that type and size. If they never overload good, if they do, I'm prepared. They are in my plastic tool box with other "emergency" components. Last trip, my porch light bulb burned out. Fixed now and a spare if it happens again. NoteTo self,' turn light off in driving rain.
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I find with the 100% LED lights now in the Escape that the license plate is still not a LED bulb and does burn out.
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I find with the 100% LED lights now in the Escape that the license plate is still not a LED bulb and does burn out.
Hi: cpaharley2008... Some things are still "Old fashioned". Alf
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There are 2 types of solar controllers PWM and MPPT, MPPT's a bit better then PWM under certain conditions.

It's a moot point as ETI only installs PWM. Forget I typed it.
MPPT comes into play when and if the panels are 24 volts or higher. Escape uses 12 volt style panels. MPPT is (was?) expensive so save your $$.

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I discovered (the hard way) that the towing package on the Acura MDX uses super thin wire to get the power back to the trailer connection.
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I went to a nearby trusted hitch shop in Monrovia and they ran super thick wire from the battery back to the hitch, and also wired in some sort of fuse on that wire as protection, somehow. I'm not so hip on the exact details, but they knew what they were doing
Assuming that this custom wire completely bypasses the Acura installation, it definitely needs to have an over-current protection device (a fuse or circuit breaker) in this circuit near the battery. I used an auto-reset circuit breaker (cuts out if current gets to high, then resets itself after a time delay), but a manually reset circuit breaker and a fuse are both reasonable alternatives.

The Acura system would likely also have a relay which turns off power to the trailer when the engine is not running, to keep the trailer from draining down the tug's battery. Although some people like to manage this manually - by unplugging the trailer every time they stop - normally a custom installation would include a relay. The relay is usually controlled by ignition (or accessory) switched power, but can also respond to voltage.
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