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Old 02-10-2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Federal tax credits for solar, RV?

Solar System for RV and boat that has been accepted by the IRS as a second home for tax purposes.
Federal Tax Credit-Solar Federal Tax Credits, Wind Federal Tax Credits
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:00 PM   #2
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That's good to know. Available through 2016 for solar.

Also, I know that some people here have said that they were going to finance their Escape. Apparently, you can deduct the interest just as for a first home by considering the Escape to be a second home. The Escape would have to have a bathroom, kitchen area and sleeping area. Check with a tax consultant or you can look up the I.R.S. rules on it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:15 PM   #3
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Great tips.

Just in case anyone missed it - perhaps it's obvious - the tax rules are completely dependent on the country, and many even vary by province or state. While Escapes are made in Canada, many owners live in the United States, so both countries rules are of interest... just pick the ones that apply to you. For some people, that's both countries at the same time!
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Never trust the promoter of a product that espouses tax incentives. Always go to the source, IRS. If you look at the form 5695 for tax year 2012, Residential Energy Credit, it specifically states it must be on your principal residence or main home of which you can only have one of. Also these rules are for US citizens filing US Federal Income Tax returns. Unless you are full timing in your Escape within the US, you would not qualify. Also note a residence must have a bath and kitchen, possible elimination of some Escape models.
As a retired special enforcement agent with IRS for 38 years, I saw this all the time, the seller tells you you can claim a tax deduction/credit if you buy their product. They take your money and walk away. Then a year later when IRS disallows the deduction and possibly other items on your return, you are left holding the bag, so to speak.
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As a retired special enforcement agent with IRS for 38 years, I saw this all the time, ...
Wow, with that job did they give you a license to kill and a secret number, like 007?
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Even more good information - thanks Jim.
My post was triggered by the fact that mortgage interest (even for a conventional principal residence) is not deductible in Canada; I was not aware that the solar scheme was invalid even in the U.S.

Just as the Internal Revenue Service is the authority in the U.S., it is the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) here.
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You may be eligible to claim the interest on a second home, subject to limitations. Certain models of Escape can qualify as a second home similar to vacation homes, larger boats, mobile RV's.
These are applicable to US citizens only.
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Jim, you might want to read that again. The main home requirement is only for fuel cell property. For solar electric, panels, it says that it does not have to be your main home.

The little list that they give, however, includes "mobile home" as a home and does not mention "house trailer" as is mentioned for deducting mortgage interest on a second home. For deducting interest, it mentions that the home has to have cooking, sleeping and "toilet facilities.". I can see someone with a port- a-potty or composting toilet in their trailer saying that they qualify.

I am not finding any definition for mobile home that would say whether it can include trailers or motorhomes for the solar credits. But, yes, you can get credits for a second home.
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Ice-breaker's post is out of line!
Where's the moderator when you need him.
I expect each member of this forum to keep his sarcasm to himself. This forum is not the place.

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Ice-breaker's post is out of line!
Where's the moderator when you need him.
I expect each member of this forum to keep his sarcasm to himself. This forum is not the place.

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While certainly off-topic and unrelated to Escape trailers, I didn't find the "007" remark out of line, and I appreciated the humourous spin on Jim's "special enforcement agent" title. I can't speak for Jim, but from his reaction it appears that he didn't mind, either.

Tax accounting could use more smiles. Frankly, I was trying to think of a good response myself, playing on the numbers (007 and 586), but came up dry.

Moderators: please feel free to delete this post if desired, particularly if the side topic of secret agent remarks is trimmed out of the topic.
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I think that all of the responding posts have been tongue in cheek. Nobody has flagged any of them.
As a moderator, I've not had to do anything in four years. And, that's the way I like it.

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You gotta chill a little bit, Dave. No sarcasm was intended towards Jim's post, I have a lot of respect for him. He has a cool 19', and we both drive a similar Tug. And finally, my comments were meant in good humor. Didn't you see the smiley face?

And just to stay on topic, I am not aware of any Canadian or Alberta tax deductions that could be applied to an Escape trailer, as a 1st or 2nd home, or otherwise.

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David, if we removed all sarcasm from this forum, we would have no moderators ('specially that baglo character).

Oops, I guess that statement was sarcasm in itself. My point is, that having fun while learning is just a bonus. Just as in real life (not that this isn't real).
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I thought Dave's post asking "where's a moderator" was joking since CPAHarley is a moderator.
Whatever..
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Yeah, you could be right on that. Never looked at it that way.
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