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Old 01-08-2016, 02:48 PM   #21
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Generator is back on sale. From the customer reviews it looks lie the engine is a Yamaha. The only real complaint is that the oil fill is at an angle and some people don't know about funnels.
I'm disappointed on some of the comments about using generators. It gets up to 112 degrees Fahrenheit in Texas and other parts of the US. Running the AC is a must. Most generators don't make any more noise than your average AC.
We need to respect each other. Going into someone's camp site and shutting down a generator while their pets are in the RV is down right dispecable! Some people also have medications like insulin in their refrigerators that need to be kept cool.
I've heard children play, have birthday parties at parks, Boy Scouts camping, people singing with guitars, dogs bark, and have learned to just enjoy it.
I wouldn't recommend you come to Texas and mess with someone's generator in the middle of the night. You'll be putting your life in danger! State Parks allow CCL owners to carry.
I've found campers some of the kindest and most wonderful people I've ever met. I've never had anything stolen or damaged in my campsites. We've been invited to our neighbors gatherings where people were having fun and laughing out loud.
If you find yourself not likening people or the noise then move. We need to respect each other!
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:35 PM   #22
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Generator is back on sale. From the customer reviews it looks lie the engine is a Yamaha.
The Yamaha engine possibility is interesting. Presumably (and hopefully) it is the same engine which Yamaha itself puts in the EF2000iS. If it were Honda I would look it up on the power products website, but Yamaha's consumer engines website (Yamaha Premium Gasoline Engines, quality, dependable, Yamaha) doesn't offer anything that small. A few "off brand" generator sets use this size of engine, suggesting a common source, and a review of the Smarter Tools AP-2000iQ says that this 79cc Yamaha engine is the MZ80, also specified by a Yamaha web page for their EF2000iS.
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Old 01-08-2016, 05:07 PM   #23
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Generator is back on sale. From the customer reviews it looks lie the engine is a Yamaha. The only real complaint is that the oil fill is at an angle and some people don't know about funnels.
I'm disappointed on some of the comments about using generators. It gets up to 112 degrees Fahrenheit in Texas and other parts of the US. Running the AC is a must. Most generators don't make any more noise than your average AC.
We need to respect each other. Going into someone's camp site and shutting down a generator while their pets are in the RV is down right dispecable! Some people also have medications like insulin in their refrigerators that need to be kept cool.
I've heard children play, have birthday parties at parks, Boy Scouts camping, people singing with guitars, dogs bark, and have learned to just enjoy it.
I wouldn't recommend you come to Texas and mess with someone's generator in the middle of the night. You'll be putting your life in danger! State Parks allow CCL owners to carry.
I've found campers some of the kindest and most wonderful people I've ever met. I've never had anything stolen or damaged in my campsites. We've been invited to our neighbors gatherings where people were having fun and laughing out loud.
If you find yourself not likening people or the noise then move. We need to respect each other!
Happy Camping
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I hope you gave some something to think about . It' a big world and we need to be tolerate of others .No one has the right to mess with others property and it may not be funny . Pat And Linda
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Old 01-08-2016, 05:25 PM   #24
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The Yamaha engine possibility is interesting. Presumably (and hopefully) it is the same engine which Yamaha itself puts in the EF2000iS. If it were Honda I would look it up on the power products website, but Yamaha's consumer engines website (Yamaha Premium Gasoline Engines, quality, dependable, Yamaha) doesn't offer anything that small. A few "off brand" generator sets use this size of engine, suggesting a common source, and a review of the Smarter Tools AP-2000iQ says that this 79cc Yamaha engine is the MZ80, also specified by a Yamaha web page for their EF2000iS.
From what I've read, there are other generators that use the Yamaha motor. I've also read that the Yamaha engine is quieter and lasts longer than most generators because they use a special metal sleeve in their cylinders. I don't know how true this is. It's on the Internet so it must be true! Lol!
Maybe someone with more experience that has worked on one can chime in and enlighten us about this.
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:46 PM   #25
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I've also read that the Yamaha engine is quieter and lasts longer than most generators because they use a special metal sleeve in their cylinders. I don't know how true this is. It's on the Internet so it must be true! Lol!
Various websites describing generators with the Yamaha MZ80 engine list a cast iron cylinder sleeve as a feature. Most engines now have aluminum blocks, and originally an aluminum block could only have acceptable durability with an iron sleeve, so they all had them. That changed in cars a few decades ago, but it looks like the sleeves are still used in these small air-cooled engines. The Honda EU2000i uses the Honda GX100T engine; most if not all of the GX-series engines have a cast iron cylinder sleeve, including the GX100, but I don't know about the GX100T specifically (I didn't see a Honda web page for it).
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Old 01-09-2016, 07:37 AM   #28
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We bought a Honda 2000 gen. a few years ago and used it once at Quartzite during the middle of the day to top up our battery. A couple of years later sold it because we didn't use it and I was clearing out stuff I didn't use. I did buy one of those listed here as on Amazon. We'll be bringing it with us to Quartzite and park away from others, use it occasionally during the day and also cancel out the noise from the gen while we try to learn to play our ukulele and concertina. Where do the students park, Mark?
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Old 01-09-2016, 10:26 AM   #29
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We bought a Honda 2000 gen. a few years ago and used it once at Quartzite during the middle of the day to top up our battery. A couple of years later sold it because we didn't use it and I was clearing out stuff I didn't use. I did buy one of those listed here as on Amazon. We'll be bringing it with us to Quartzite and park away from others, use it occasionally during the day and also cancel out the noise from the gen while we try to learn to play our ukulele and concertina. Where do the students park, Mark?
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Right next to you Jack. They enjoy good music. They will probably like it better than today's music! Maybe they can join in with their drum set and guitar and we can really have a music festival and dance. I've seen many a camper playing music and dancing with their wives in their camp site. It's beautiful to see couples that have been married more than 30 years still holding hands and dancing. It's a great example on how to enjoy life!!!
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:26 AM   #30
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Small gas generators ... oh boy ... since I have been living off the grid for more than 15 years, I have been through a lot of them. Here is my call and I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here:


Honda - generally have been the worst of the bunch. Very expensive compared to the rest. Maybe a little quieter ... maybe. Much more temperamental and what makes me want to throw them "under the bus" is their maintenance schedule. Their manual says to remove the cylinder head and exhaust manifold every 300 hours for de-carbonizing. That's about every month or two for me and my usage. Shop rates for that work were enough that I could buy a new generator every 6 - 9 months. Had 1 - 1000 watt and 2 - 2000 watt before I got a little smarter. If you are using your trailer just a couple weeks per year, then the Honda might be a good choice.


Then went threw a series of Yamaha generators. All along I have been asking the generators (all of the inverter style) to power a 40 amp battery charger at 12 volts (max 480 watts). Should be a piece of cake for a 1000 watt generator ... well it was't. The 1000 watt generator always sounded lugged down and sure enough it lasted about 2 months beyond its warranty. Perhaps the Honda 1000 was a little more honest in its output rating as it didn't sound like it was struggling as much but it still didn't last any longer. Then I reacted to the lugging sound and tried a 2000 watt. Much better... fuel economy was still within acceptable parameters. But Yamaha's problem is that its cost is almost as much as the Honda in purchase price. Too much! Yes a more robust engine but still too much $.


Next I tried a Suburu / Robin industrial generator. Was heavy but lasted well beyond all the others. However it has an important drawback .... parts availability and I'm pretty sure its ignition system was made in North Korea. The coil went out and is integral with the spark plug cap. After a number of months I got a new part but haven't put it back in service. Currently considered a back up. With all that said .... I'd buy another. I think.


Then Costco started selling "Smarter Tools" generators powered by Yamaha 2000i. I really like these generators (so far). Have two of them which I alternate and both have proven to be very reliable. Costco is no longer selling them, unfortunately, but I see that Amazon is carrying them. Costco, about a year + ago sold them for close to $600 and Amazon has them now for $650. Fair enough ... when I need another gen, Amazon it is. These are good generators and I recommend them.


I'd be afraid of the Powerstroke. It's profile, and that is all I'm going on, looks like a Generac knock off and I would not touch a Generac with a 20' pole. I think Generac is a cheap subsidiary of an all ready way to cheaply built motor by Briggs and Stratton. Thumbs down!!!!


Here is the best way to make your generator last. Yamaha makes an hour meter to fit their generators ... its an option and I'm sorry that I don't have a model number. Its a piece of plastic about 1 1/4" by 3/4" with an led readout and a button. Push button and you get RPM, push again and you get an hour meter reading .... as in how long you engine has been running since you first got the meter hooked up. Attachment is with two sheet metal screws into the plastic case near the spark plug (will not void the warranty) and by drilling about a 1/16" hole through the case. Thread a single strand wire through hole and wrap wire around the spark plug hot wire. It is an inductive pickup. With knowledge of engine running time you can determine when to change the oil. Since most of these small engines only hold between .3 and <.5 quarts for 50 - 90 hours of run time, its critical you change the oil at prescribed frequency or sooner. I can change my Smart Tool / Yamaha oil in less than 10 minutes.


These meters would work on any engine with a spark plug. Worth the $35 easy at a Yamaha dealership - haven't tried Amazon or Ebay.


Sorry I got so long winded but I have been meaning to write this for a long time.




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