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Old 01-05-2017, 09:39 PM   #1
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:02 PM   #2
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how do you start the furnace in a 21' escape trailer
If you have the digital thermostat you push a button to put it in heat mode and then set it to the temp you want. If not, it works similar to a Casita.
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If you just have a simple thermostat, there is an on/off tab at the very top right of the panel and a slider tab at the bottom that one moves to control the temperature.
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Some models of the analog thermostat had a very difficult on/off switch. Take the cover off and you will have a better idea of how it functions and apply lots of force.
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It is also a good idea to make sure the valves on your propane bottles are opened before trying to use the furnace.
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You do not have an Escape and you are just asking? The recent models are sold with a certain thermostat that is not on older models. The newer thermostat has an automatic setting that is usually used ("Au"), and has temperature adjustment settings. You push on the thermostat to operate it. At least ours is that way. Don't know if they are onto another model.
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You do not have an Escape and you are just asking? The recent models are sold with a certain thermostat that is not on older models. The newer thermostat has an automatic setting that is usually used ("Au"), and has temperature adjustment settings. You push on the thermostat to operate it. At least ours is that way. Don't know if they are onto another model.
I've turned mine on a few times and I've discovered I have to wait a few seconds (or whatever - never timed it) for it to cycle to the next phase. If I get impatient and press it again, it goes to another cycle that I didn't want. We have the heat strip on our furnace so there's also another cycle it goes through.
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The furnace has several safety steps which involve purging the line and checking for proper airflow. All this is done before ignition and heat.
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The furnace has several safety steps which involve purging the line and checking for proper airflow. All this is done before ignition and heat.
I used to have oversight on three different large gas fired boilers. Once in a while in cold weather, my phone would be automatically dialed about two in the morning or so. Usually sub zero temps and wind had caused a problem. Boiler out, temp dropping, in a greenhouse. Get dressed, drive ten miles, open the building, accidentally set off burglar alarm, run the diagnostic, refire the boiler, usually did the trick. If not, call the mechical contractor, get boiler going, cycle three times, go back home, two hours of your life you'll never get back. Jeez, waiting for the purge on the Escape furnace don't seem like much. I like retirement.
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The 16 ft Scamp and the 16/17 ft Casita both come with a 16,000 btu imput furnace. The Escape 21 comes with a 12,000 btu imput furnace.
Assuming a Standard Escape 21 ( Without the insulation ,thermal window option ) , down to what outside temp will the Escape furnace maintain a 70 deg F interior temperature ?.
I will admit that my 16,000 btu Casita furnace,seems like overkill most of the time but when camping at temps well below zero not so much so.

Will Escape install the 16,000 btu furnace as an option ?

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I've turned mine on a few times and I've discovered I have to wait a few seconds (or whatever - never timed it) for it to cycle to the next phase. If I get impatient and press it again, it goes to another cycle that I didn't want. We have the heat strip on our furnace so there's also another cycle it goes through.
I guess you mean after you first have it going. Yes, it takes a while if you then make a change. Maybe a half a minute or more (we do not have any extra heat strip on ours.)
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Will Escape install the 16,000 btu furnace as an option ?

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I wouldn't want a larger furnace (than 12,000 BTU/hr input) in a small trailer, because it is likely to cycle on for only very short periods. Short cycles can be both annoying and inefficient, because the purge and cool-down cycles are just as long and become much of the operating time; both purge and cool-down waste heat, make noise, and use electrical power.

On the other hand, perhaps the 5.0TA or even the 21' are now big enough to justify a 16,000 BTU/hr furnace in colder areas. Does anyone with one of these larger models find that the furnace can't keep up, or has to run continuously?
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A heating and AC guy once told me that the perfect sized furnace is one that runs continuously on the coldest day your house is likely to experience.
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I wouldn't want a larger furnace (than 12,000 BTU/hr input) in a small trailer, because it is likely to cycle on for only very short periods. Short cycles can be both annoying and inefficient, because the purge and cool-down cycles are just as long and become much of the operating time; both purge and cool-down waste heat, make noise, and use electrical power.

On the other hand, perhaps the 5.0TA or even the 21' are now big enough to justify a 16,000 BTU/hr furnace in colder areas. Does anyone with one of these larger models find that the furnace can't keep up, or has to run continuously?
I had my HVAC guy once tell me that the ideally sized furnace would run 24/7 on the coldest day it experiences. This offers the best comfort and cost savings.

No idea on the 5.0TA furnace size. I kinda think it is the same, but.....
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A heating and AC guy once told me that the perfect sized furnace is one that runs continuously on the coldest day your house is likely to experience.
Man, you are fast for an old(er) guy.
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Man, you are fast for an old(er) guy.
It sounds like you two are using the same HVAC guy.
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A heating and AC guy once told me that the perfect sized furnace is one that runs continuously on the coldest day your house is likely to experience.
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I had my HVAC guy once tell me that the ideally sized furnace would run 24/7 on the coldest day it experiences. This offers the best comfort and cost savings.
I agree, in the same sense that I agree with Colin Chapman's (alleged) assertion that a race car should fall apart on the victory lap, because otherwise it must have been stronger than necessary and thus too heavy.
A bit of margin is good.

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No idea on the 5.0TA furnace size. I kinda think it is the same, but.....
I assume so - in Reace's announcement of the furnace model change, Escape website Features lists, and descriptions of furnaces in various models, I've never heard of a different size being used.
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We used to say about stock cars and the cars at the Marion County fairgrounds in Knoxville, Iowa, "They run the very best, just before they blow." If that was coming out of turn 4 on the last lap the leader's cushion would shrink pretty fast in coast gear. My driver was Jerry Blundy out of Illinois. I did like Joey Saldana too. In USAC cars, nobody ran harder than Wisconsin's Dick Trickle. And what about the Howard Langton Offenhauser Midgets out of my home town, Cedar Rapids Iowa. Nothing like rubber on black gumbo on an 88 degree July night.
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