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Old 04-15-2015, 01:16 AM   #31
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I think it's mostly personal preference ... and, perhaps, dependent on the weather. We've only had our trailer a little over a year, but there have been a few times in the beginning when we thought, "Nah, let's not hook up now." Then, at nightfall, we realized we were "at capacity" and needed to dump. It's much easier to run out and pull a lever as opposed to pulling out hoses, hooking them up, etc. ... especially on a rainy night.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:23 AM   #32
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I think it's mostly personal preference ... and, perhaps, dependent on the weather. We've only had our trailer a little over a year, but there have been a few times in the beginning when we thought, "Nah, let's not hook up now." Then, at nightfall, we realized we were "at capacity" and needed to dump. It's much easier to run out and pull a lever as opposed to pulling out hoses, hooking them up, etc. ... especially on a rainy night.
That's a good point. Being noobs we never let the tanks get full or even past half full before dumping on our first week or so out. I think on our next trip we'll just let it get fuller before dumping - after all, we had Horst probes installed so we might as well trust them.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:33 AM   #33
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I'm waiting for a full review of the Horst probes. Like, when the black is half full is it really half full? When it's full, is it really full or can you get another day out of the tank?
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:26 AM   #34
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No need for single shots, caterpillar walk works fine. If one was to sit in a site with FHU's for a couple weeks I can using such. Maybe once we start to snowbird. You are supposed to let the tanks fill up more or less before dumping, which for us is roughly once a week. Ones dump frequency is really a personal choice, as is the need for this gizmo.
We were 5.5 weeks in an RV park in TX Jan-Mar. There was a 3 foot or so 2x6 in our site when we arrived so I used some extra of our wood blocks and set up a sloped drain to the sewer and secured with a bungy. This worked well, emptying at first every 3 days or so but once the carpet in bath was wet because the grey tank filled up so I then dumped every two days, easy peasy just empty grey then black and back to the relaxing snowbird life,

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Old 04-15-2015, 06:52 AM   #35
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OK. So as an inexperienced newbie I still get to ask the dumb questions... When you're camped and have a sewer hookup, do you just set up the connection between your sewer hose and the sewer (probably using the wrong terminology!!) but have the black tank closed until you need it? Or do you only set up the connection when you want to drain? What's the benefit of keeping it all set up and having to walk over it when you will only need it every week or so?
Whether you leave the sewer hose hooked up is a personal preference. I just see no need to do so. Keeping an eye on the monitor gives us a good days warning for when we need to dump, and we do so only once the tanks are well over half full. When leaving camp, if we are headed home we dump, but if headed to another campsite, and our tanks are well less than half full, we just head out and dump later.

I don't like leaving the sewer hose connected for a few reasons, It can add undue wear to the hose, from sunlight or accidental abuse. It looks butt ugly just laying there. And, it takes but a minute more to connect and store again.

I would bet that well over 75% of the time we dump at a campsite, we do so only once during our stay, so the time saved and convenience of leaving it set up is moot.
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:32 AM   #36
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I'm waiting for a full review of the Horst probes. Like, when the black is half full is it really half full? When it's full, is it really full or can you get another day out of the tank?
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I believe the Horst probes use the same holes and wires as the standard probes, levels it reports are the same as those of the standard ones. The only difference one would hope to get is you would not get the errors you get with the standard probes. I have found ETI's placement of the probes is better then that on my previous trailer, at least on the 5.0 TA.
I don't know how common errors are on the Escapes but on my previous I would intermittently see 2/3 full when in fact the tank was empty, or close to it. It's a very common thing on conventional trailers. I know a few folks who swapped to the Horst and over 4 or 5 years reported no errors.
I've not read an actual full review of them anywhere, how much can someone say, they either work or they don't.

If I recall correctly, we didn't see any problems till after a year or 2. I've read about reported ways to clean the probes, Dawn dish soap, Peroxide, etc... no idea if any really work.
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In six years I have yet to flush my tanks, and the sensors seem to be still working fine. I don't think I do anything different than others do either.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:29 AM   #38
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In six years I have yet to flush my tanks, and the sensors seem to be still working fine. I don't think I do anything different than others do either.
Possibly you eat more bran than others on this forum, Jim?

I don't see a whole lot of value in "full hookups" for stays at a campground of less than about 3 days. For those durations, we rarely fill our black or grey tanks and would only need/want to dump as we leave the campground. We generally save the money on full hookups sites and use it for beer or something else. Downside is that all that beer tends to make the black tank fill faster. If we are staying at a site for more than about 3 days, it is nice to have the sewer connection so that you can dump without moving the trailer, but you are definitely paying a premium for a once every three days convenience. That being said, we have stayed at a number of campsites without full hookups where in the middle of our stay I will hook up the tow and make a short trip to the dump station and then come back to the site. A bit of a pain, but not that big of a deal.
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Good point, Dave. (not the bran one)

We too opt for no services if at all possible, if the stay is short. Our tanks and batteries last for 4 days, no problem. The only issue with dumping when leaving I have found, is sometimes there is a line up.

Beer gets disposed of in the trees, if at all possible.
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My $.02

More useful purchase is to upgrade the hose. We went with this for our 21.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002OUMVWY/...XH624JEQ&psc=1

We also have a sidewinder, and have used it a few time when we have been at full hookup sites for longer duration or when i want to give the holding tank a really good flushing
Amazon.com: Camco 43041 15' Sidewinder Plastic Sewer Hose Support: Automotive

a word on flushing...
Prior to our last trip i had installed a Camco 40126 Tornado Rotary Tank Rinser and was very please with the results. After doing a normal dump of a full holding/gery tanks I hooked up the Tornado to the water supply and let it run for several minuets to flush the holding tank ... no more hauling out the garden hose to flush the tank through the toilet makes me a very happy camper
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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