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Old 11-03-2014, 09:45 PM   #101
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As has been said, it was eliminated because with the new toilet valve, the low-point drain wouldn't remove all the water. One had to use compressed air or RV anti-freeze, so there is no point installing something that doesn't do a complete job.
Exactly. I think folks were expecting it to work perfectly, it didn't... caused problems and left ETI on the hook.
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:05 PM   #102
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As Mel tried to say, there are other reasons to have a low-point drain. As we also just found, much water was left in the lines after draining the fresh tank which we then got out through the low-point drain.

The toilet valve problem has nothing to do with the low-point drain and everything to do with the absence of an instruction to pump anti-freeze through the lines. No need to eliminate a useful thing in that and other circumstances because the instructions were wrong.
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:13 PM   #103
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Exactly. I think folks were expecting it to work perfectly, it didn't... caused problems and left ETI on the hook.
Hate to tell you but it doesn't 'work perfectly' ... and no process 'is fool' proof. All because of a toilet valve? Makes no sense.

Let's say a person cares about what is 'added' to their fresh water system? We do.

Do you use a food grade air compressor? Compressed air is compressed toxins with additional compressor debris. After blowing that crap through you pipes then rinse it with some 'safe' antifreeze.

With a low point drain and the fresh water tank valves you can quickly dump most of the water with 1 hand, anytime and anywhere. Then, if you think it will get cold enough, 'chase out' the little remaining water with air.

How much does a low point drain cost to install? Why not give people a 'clean' way to dump the water simply and quickly with 1 hand?

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Old 11-04-2014, 01:16 AM   #104
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Hate to tell you but it doesn't 'work perfectly' ... and no process 'is fool' proof. All because of a toilet valve? Makes no sense.

Let's say a person cares about what is 'added' to their fresh water system? We do.

Do you use a food grade air compressor? Compressed air is compressed toxins with additional compressor debris. After blowing that crap through you pipes then rinse it with some 'safe' antifreeze.

With a low point drain and the fresh water tank valves you can quickly dump most of the water with 1 hand, anytime and anywhere. Then, if you think it will get cold enough, 'chase out' the little remaining water with air.

How much does a low point drain cost to install? Why not give people a 'clean' way to dump the water simply and quickly with 1 hand?

Mel
I don't think it's about cost or it would be an option you could choose to buy. Most likely a prior customer complaint that ETI doesn't want to deal with again. Just my opinion - I've dropped products for the same reason.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:09 AM   #105
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I'm still wondering if they are an option now.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:24 AM   #106
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We never used the fresh tank for drinking. We do, however, use it for cleaning the dishes and flushing the toilet. That said, what would be wrong with bypassing the hot water tank, removing the plug, draining all tanks, before employing the low point drain. Then add 2 gallons of RV antifreeze to the fresh tank and run every tap and toilet with the water pump until pink comes out. The fresh water tank does take some time to rinse out come camping season but it does rinse out. Add some pink to the P traps and you're done. The pink RV antifreeze is potable (or at least labeled as such) and has yet to leave any noticeable residue (at least to us) when used to clean dishes.
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We never used the fresh tank for drinking. We do, however, use it for cleaning the dishes and flushing the toilet. That said, what would be wrong with bypassing the hot water tank, removing the plug, draining all tanks, before employing the low point drain. Then add 2 gallons of RV antifreeze to the fresh tank and run every tap and toilet with the water pump until pink comes out. The fresh water tank does take some time to rinse out come camping season but it does rinse out. Add some pink to the P traps and you're done. The pink RV antifreeze is potable (or at least labeled as such) and has yet to leave any noticeable residue (at least to us) when used to clean dishes.
The biggest problem with this, is that it is near impossible to totally empty the fresh water tank, and the antifreeze added would be diluted.

We do use our trailer water for cooking with too, and I do notice the taste of the RV antifreeze for a bit after cleaning it, as I did use it in the water lines of our last trailer.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:02 AM   #108
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Thats why I like the kit that alows the pump to suck the antifreeze right out of the jug. just drain the fresh water tank, use the pump to push the antifreeze through the rest of the system with the hot water tank bypassed and drained and its done in a couple of minutes. I do find i have to rinse the lines through quite a bit in the spring.
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Thanks for your answer Jim. Come camping season we re-drain our fresh tank using the spigot at the bottom of the tank and a hose in the fresh water fill. It does take several cycles but seems to come clean (to us).
http://www.amazon.ca/Camco-40206-Tas.../dp/B000BQLQYM gets added if need be.

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Old 11-04-2014, 11:08 AM   #110
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Dave,
Were you able to empty the pump feed line from the fresh water supply? That was the one issue I had, otherwise the E-Zwinterizing set up worked great.
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