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07-21-2018, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Sequim, Washington
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Originally Posted by soaring360
Just curious. Would escape install the toilet for a price, including drilling the hole for the ventilation? I will be using a composting toilet in my future 5.0 as well and it would be great if they would could do the drilling at least, or even the full install? I think I would ask them to 'convert' the black tank to freshwater, thereby doubling my freshwater capacity for extended boondocking!
Also is the hose provided by airhead long enough to reach the ceiling for ventilation? Would you have to shift the toilet forward if you did decide to attach the hose for ventilation?
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ETI didn't want to install the composting toilet for us, so I specified that the platform not have the conventional toilet flange. If I do install the exhaust hose I won't have to move the toilet and it will go through the side. I sent ETI a picture of where I would install the hose and they stated I would not drill through any wires, hoses, etc. If you wanted to install the hose through the ceiling, you'd have to order a longer hose from Airhead.
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07-30-2018, 10:52 AM
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If you were to take a shower do you need to put a cover over the toilet to keep shower water from filling the urine tank or is the seat lid sufficient?
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07-30-2018, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StillCampin
If you were to take a shower do you need to put a cover over the toilet to keep shower water from filling the urine tank or is the seat lid sufficient?
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No. the composting toilet has gaskets that seal it.
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12-21-2018, 08:01 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Denver, Colorado
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HI jkordzi,
In another post you mentioned you were keeping the black tank to divert liquids tank to. I couldn't find your description of that part of the installation. Could you elaborate please? I too am installing a composting toilet in my 5.0. I had asked eti to replace the black water tank with a fresh water tank, to double my freshwater capacity, but it seems that may not be possible. My second best option I think would be to keep the black tank and divert the liquid tank to it.
thanks!
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12-21-2018, 08:30 PM
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Our primary reason for retaining the black tank was the ability to install a conventional toilet for resale. I've seen other posts about how to install a diverter to run the grey water into the black tank as well, but we haven't done that yet. So far, as you imply, fresh water is the limiting factor on how long we can stay out and so increasing grey water storage is not a priority, especially since the options for discharging grey water are much greater than black. Our strategy is to bring along three 6 gallon jerry cans for fresh water that we carry in the back of our truck, more than doubling our fresh water capacity.
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12-22-2018, 05:28 AM
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If you are talking about the 5.0TA, the fresh tank holds 28 gallons.
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12-22-2018, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
If you are talking about the 5.0TA, the fresh tank holds 28 gallons.
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You're right - I checked the specs and that's what is stated. Odd. When the fresh water gauge above the refrigerator gets down to almost empty, the three 6 gallon jerry cans more than fill it up, so I assumed it was 15 gallons. Guess that gauge is not very accurate.
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12-22-2018, 01:54 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkordzi
When the fresh water gauge above the refrigerator gets down to almost empty, the three 6 gallon jerry cans more than fill it up, so I assumed it was 15 gallons. Guess that gauge is not very accurate.
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That gauge has a sensor corresponding to each level, so the corresponding volumes correspond to heights at which the sensors are installed. Those installation heights are unlikely to be precisely determined, so I would consider this type of display (in any brand of RV) to be "near empty/low/medium/high" rather than actual thirds of the tank.
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10-29-2019, 07:06 PM
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#29
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Houston, Texas
Trailer: Future 5.0 owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolynStride
You got an airhead. Why that one? In my research I am pretty sure I would want a Natures Head toilet.
You installed in a 5 TA - I wish I had better specs on the sizes of bathrooms because a composting toilet needs also to be able to be opened to remove the solid waste container as well as the urine container. Those stock toilets are on a riser - I would prefer a flatter shower base..
And I plan to live f/t in my Escape, often boondocking. So a larger grey tank would be preferable to an unused black tank. A lot to think about.....
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I had these same thoughts. I'm going to ask if Escape can combine the tanks and redirect the urine to the grey tank.
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10-30-2019, 02:16 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkordzi
Installation was easy, and only took about 30 minutes, using a drill, a countersink for the screws, and a screwdriver. Attached are pics of the brackets (with the needed countersink), and the finished installation. The screws get run through the fiberglass and into the wood framework underneath.
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What length screws for the brackets? This would be critical as to not go through into the black tank below with 8 holes (if it were ever going to be used in the future).
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07-27-2020, 08:26 AM
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#33
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ennismore, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkordzi
No. the composting toilet has gaskets that seal it.
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Hello jkordzi, I know you did not want to get into a conversation about the pros and cons of this type of waste desposal and I read the references others included links to so that makes snse. The question I have is simply how do you get rid of solid waste. Is it in a bag that you dump in the trash? Do you shovel it out? does it fall into a plastic container that you dump? Just trying t undestand how this works.
Thank You
Barry
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07-27-2020, 01:05 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear101
Hello jkordzi, I know you did not want to get into a conversation about the pros and cons of this type of waste desposal and I read the references others included links to so that makes snse. The question I have is simply how do you get rid of solid waste. Is it in a bag that you dump in the trash? Do you shovel it out? does it fall into a plastic container that you dump? Just trying t undestand how this works.
Thank You
Barry
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Just read this morning what a Airstream owner does , dumped his bag in the dumpster . And the liquid in the bushes . Pat
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07-27-2020, 01:07 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ennismore, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Just read this morning what a Airstream owner does , dumped his bag in the dumpster . And the liquid in the bushes . Pat
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Thank You Pat
I suppose we could dump the liquid at the dump station as well
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07-27-2020, 01:13 PM
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear101
Thank You Pat
I suppose we could dump the liquid at the dump station as well
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...at the same time as you dump the "solids". What could be easier? And then it goes through a septic system instead of into a landfill.
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07-27-2020, 01:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ennismore, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
...at the same time as you dump the "solids". What could be easier? And then it goes through a septic system instead of into a landfill.
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This is what I would be worried about gbaglo. Does the medium in the toilet Coco or Spghnum plug up a septic system? or become a problem when pumping out the black water holding tank at a dump station. I think it might so the only option is throwing the solids in the waste?
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07-27-2020, 01:22 PM
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#38
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I'm suggesting that you not use a composting toilet ( which doesn't compost instantly ) and that you use the supplied toilet and black tank. That is the best option.
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07-27-2020, 01:22 PM
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Location: Venice, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear101
This is what I would be worried about gbaglo. Does the medium in the toilet Coco or Spghnum plug up a septic system? or become a problem when pumping out the black water holding tank at a dump station. I think it might so the only option is throwing the solids in the waste?
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You could always convert your toilet back to a flush toilet, and not have to worry about adding coco or sphagnum and how to dispose of it afterwards.
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07-27-2020, 01:26 PM
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#40
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Location: Ennismore, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I'm suggesting that you not use a composting toilet ( which doesn't compost instantly ) and that you use the supplied toilet and black tank. That is the best option.
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Yes we have the supplied toilet in our 19
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