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Old 08-05-2015, 10:55 PM   #321
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Is the 5.0 Classic based on the 17' body ?
Yes, all Escape models are derived from some other model, with the original (the 17') being based on a Surfside (with a lot of improvements). The original 5.0 started with a 17', and kept the same width.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:48 PM   #322
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Photos of the curbside .... outside. And the replacement of the grommet which broke when the panel blew off.
Dave thank you for the pictures . I was looking over them and something is catching my attention . The bottom of the feet appear to have sealant on top of the bolts . I think I would get some DiCor or 3m marine grade 4000 and seal all around the feet at the bottom edges . Water may be able to get under there and come inside . Just my thoughts . Whatever product you use needs to be waterproof and flexible . If you can look how Escape sealed the Max fan , etc. that's kind of what you want . Pat
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:17 AM   #323
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Escape provides the sealant to us with the kit, which I presume is the sealant they use around the Maxxfan and other rooftop devices.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:41 AM   #324
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Dave thank you for the pictures . I was looking over them and something is catching my attention . The bottom of the feet appear to have sealant on top of the bolts . I think I would get some DiCor or 3m marine grade 4000 and seal all around the feet at the bottom edges . Water may be able to get under there and come inside . Just my thoughts . Whatever product you use needs to be waterproof and flexible . If you can look how Escape sealed the Max fan , etc. that's kind of what you want . Pat
We sent Reace the pictures also. He had sent sealant with the panel etc and this is the kind he used:
Geocel 28100V Pro Flex Crystal Clear RV Flexible Sealant:
http://www.amazon.com/Geocel-28100V-Crystal-Flexible-Sealant/dp/B001FC98X2
Reace recommended more sealant around the brackets so we will do that as soon as we get some more...it's been ordered from Amazon. He also said that the headliner issue is because they got a bit too close to the curve of the dome and, of course, that's true. But unless you are doing it yourself or are right there next to them while they do the work (not likely) it is really hard to convey exactly what is needed and the nuances of what happens if you're too close, too far, etc. Especially someone who hasn't dealt with this before. and hasn't been thinking through all the "what ifs". And once you drill the hole there is no going back. We're glad they got the bathroom side brackets on ok without going through the bathroom ceiling.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:21 AM   #325
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We sent Reace the pictures also. He had sent sealant with the panel etc and this is the kind he used:
Geocel 28100V Pro Flex Crystal Clear RV Flexible Sealant:
http://www.amazon.com/Geocel-28100V-Crystal-Flexible-Sealant/dp/B001FC98X2
Reace recommended more sealant around the brackets so we will do that as soon as we get some more...it's been ordered from Amazon. He also said that the headliner issue is because they got a bit too close to the curve of the dome and, of course, that's true. But unless you are doing it yourself or are right there next to them while they do the work (not likely) it is really hard to convey exactly what is needed and the nuances of what happens if you're too close, too far, etc. Especially someone who hasn't dealt with this before. and hasn't been thinking through all the "what ifs". And once you drill the hole there is no going back. We're glad they got the bathroom side brackets on ok without going through the bathroom ceiling.
Dave I have also used the Pro Flex . We just have a hard time getting that around here . I just also thought brackets were not sealed good enough to my liking . Believe me I know what you mean about having others do repairs for you . Happens to me too. Hopefully this is it and you can just get back to camping . Pat
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What about a piece of Butyl tape under the brackets, then just sealing the bracket edge and top with the ProFlex? Seems to me that would provide a very good seal.
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What about a piece of Butyl tape under the brackets, then just sealing the bracket edge and top with the ProFlex? Seems to me that would provide a very good seal.
Robert I wouldn't . The sealant's mentioned will also help hold besides sealing . The Butyl tape is great for windows etc. but it won't help hold and it does squeeze out . Just my take . Pat
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Robert I wouldn't . The sealant's mentioned will also help hold besides sealing . The Butyl tape is great for windows etc. but it won't help hold and it does squeeze out . Just my take . Pat
OK, fair enough. I was thinking more about the sealing properties instead of holding. I assume the bolts would do the holding.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:30 PM   #329
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Wow! All the diverse thoughts about how to add the mounting parts, what to watch out for, ramifications of this and that...All good information, thanks to all.
I'm not ready to drill holes through that beautiful shell. I examined the solar panel mounting and didn't find any kind of gaps in the mounting. It felt pretty solid. So, for now, I added a cable on each side of the solar panel that connects the solar panel mounting to the steel frame of the air conditioner. I think there is little chance of air conditioner damage should the panel come loose. While I still think adding the direct-to-the-shell mounting brackets is the final fix, this will keep from the panel literally flying-off the trailer should it become un-attached. (On my 19 the solar is mounted on the back behind the air condidioner.)
I stlll want to add the brackets and will do so following a more elegant solution to the bolts and washers disfiguring the headliner in the cabinets. I'll probably make some kind of oak fixture for inside the cabinets.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:40 PM   #330
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If you didn't know... you'll need to keep an eye on this sealant over the years. Like all caulks, it's a yearly maintenance item, at least to check it. It's the same as they use over the windows and over the tail lights.
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