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Old 05-09-2016, 01:33 AM   #21
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You need to go camping and catch some fish Glen.
That 5 lb trout would look good in a 1/2 gallon frying pan.
Cook it over an open fire and you don't have to worry about how many gallons, US or Imp, or lbs or kgs of propane you have.

But how many chords of wood will you need?
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Old 05-09-2016, 01:37 AM   #22
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How do you know they were empty?
Easy, the Weber grill at home stopped working for bottle #1 a week or so ago.

For bottle #2, at the trailer the indicator on the auto switcher turned red last Wednesday during a short fishing trip.

I took both occurrences to mean the 2 tanks were empty. I do own a 50lb scale that I use before a trip to see if the online trailer tank should be filled. I like to start with them full.

Never been charged by the pound. Either they hit me with a flat rate irregardless of being empty or not, or they charge by the gallon. Something is goofy, you getting charged by the pound, I'd expect kilo's or maybe liters/litres. Much more fun keeping visiting Americans confused that way.
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I'm going to launch a class-action suit as soon as I can find a lawyer to take it on pro bono.

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I'm going to pour myself a cup of coffee and wait for Brian B-P to weigh in on the discussion.
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You can read the tare ( the empty weight - it's stamped on the container ) and use a luggage scale to determine how many pounds of propane are left. Subtract the tare weight from the scale weight and you get the weight of the contents. You can use your luggage scale for luggage and for propane.
Or you can simply pick up the tank, heft it up and down a couple of times and say, umm, almost empty.

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Or you can simply pick up the tank, heft it up and down a couple of times and say, umm, almost empty.

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Do you have an Amazon link? Where do I find this heft?
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But how many chords of wood will you need?
I donno. Choir master told me to mouth the words.
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Old 05-09-2016, 04:00 AM   #28
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What's the tare weight of an empty RAV4 gas tank? Doesn't matter when you buy by volume as is done south of the 49th. as long as the pump can measure gallons (or litres), you get what you paid for.

I kind of like being able to refill a tank before it is empty and only pay for what is put in the tank, instead of paying for the full 20 lbs (or should that be 9.08 kg) even if my tank is not empty.
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Old 05-09-2016, 04:20 AM   #29
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baglo, read the U.S. markings on a cylinder... they usually show the tank's volume in pounds of water.

If your personal hefting technique is not well-calibrated, you can just shake the cylinder - sloshing means there is some left, no sloshing means there is no liquid (and so no useful quantity of propane) left.

Although everyone fills small portable propane cylinders around here on a flat-rate basis (same charge regardless of how much it takes to fill it), in some areas they apparently go through a meter and charge for the actual amount... which is certainly a better deal if you only need part of a tank, and probably better even in the ideal case of an empty tank to start. Although the bulk price of propane here is much lower than it was a year or two ago, I think the gas stations still charge the same flat rate (other than Costco, which is always the cheapest and adjusts to the market); at the nearest station to me, that's CA$16/20 lb (or CA$0.87/L) compared to less than CA$0.60/L when metered (including delivery).

Portable cylinders are filled here by weight (the filling is stopped when the tank weighs what it should when full), but in many areas they are filled by volume (the filling is stopped when liquid starts spitting out of the 80% level bleed valve). Regardless of the method use to determine how much to put in, the quantity of propane can be expressed in weight, or in the standard volume corresponding to that weight (using the density which John listed); meters typically read in volume units.

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If you want to start with a full 20# propane tank do not use tanks from a propane exchange. ...
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Yep thinking 30 lb high polished aluminum ...
That will look good. If you fill in locations where they control filling by weight, watch how much they put in. Every attendant I've seen assumes the same tare weight for every cylinder of the same nominal size, so if that's 25 pounds (empty) for a 30-pound cylinder, they fill it to 55 pounds... but your aluminum cylinder should be 6 to 7 pounds lighter, so if they fill it to 55 pounds total it will be overfilled, possibly dangerously so.

You might think a propane attendant would be bright enough to notice that that cylinder is shiny and read the tare weight off the collar, but I've never seen one read anything off a tank other than the expiry date, and only one has ever read the date. When filling the tank on our motorhome (which requires opening the bleed valve), one guy finished up and walked away, leaving the bleed valve open. Yes, a continuously running propane leak. I just closed it myself, and decided that I would continue to oversee what these idiots are doing.
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