Propane sensor alarm malfunction - Page 4 - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Escape Systems | Water, Waste, Charging & Propane
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 07-30-2016, 10:51 PM   #31
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Porterville, California
Trailer: Escape 5.0 ta 2016 Iwanna/2007 Casita SD 17ft-sold
Posts: 66
My propane detector has been going off also. I just picked up my 5.0 TA at the end of March.
I vacuumed the vent. It didn't help. It has been well over 100* for many many days which is normal for central California. I placed a fan in the floor of the trailer pointed at the propane detector and it has quit going off. So, during the summer when at home I will just leave a fan running.
__________________

Sandyb12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2016, 11:47 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Front Range, Colorado
Trailer: Eureka Equinox 6 person tent. (with a broken zipper) 5.0 TA on order July 2017 delivery
Posts: 227
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P View Post
That's the difference between a normal flooded lead-acid battery (which includes all flooded deep-cycles) and a "low maintenance" or "no maintenance" flooded lead-acid automotive battery. The deep cycle battery requires electrolyte maintenance (adding water), and the caps are designed for that. For the car, they know you're not going to maintain it, and the caps are not designed to be removed. They're both similarly vented.
They're both similarly vented in the trailer but the golf cart batteries convert a lot more of the hydrogen in H2O to hydrogen gas which then requires frequently adding more H2O. Yesterday I added a very small amount of distilled water to the 2 1/2 year old battery in my F 150. (for the first time since I installed it) The two outer cells were a little lower than the other 4 cells but there was plenty of water in them. Golf cart batteries would be toast long before that. The moral is to realize that the deep cycle batteries are very gassy compared to car batteries and pay attention to venting the trailer. Also, frequently check the water levels.
__________________

SFDavis50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 12:14 AM   #33
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Front Range, Colorado
Trailer: Eureka Equinox 6 person tent. (with a broken zipper) 5.0 TA on order July 2017 delivery
Posts: 227
Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles View Post
Well.... The detector is REALLY big.



(Kidding)
I wonder if there is any difference between a propane and CO detector at all. There is a difference between a smoke and CO detector but it seems like placement would be the big difference with CO. COSTCO in Colorado is selling a lithium Ion battery powered CO detector with a 10 year life span. Seems like a good back up. and you can move it to your house when you aren't camping.
SFDavis50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 01:16 AM   #34
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 7,549
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFDavis50 View Post
They're both similarly vented in the trailer but the golf cart batteries convert a lot more of the hydrogen in H2O to hydrogen gas which then requires frequently adding more H2O. Yesterday I added a very small amount of distilled water to the 2 1/2 year old battery in my F 150. (for the first time since I installed it) The two outer cells were a little lower than the other 4 cells but there was plenty of water in them. Golf cart batteries would be toast long before that. The moral is to realize that the deep cycle batteries are very gassy compared to car batteries and pay attention to venting the trailer. Also, frequently check the water levels.
Perhaps, but the difference in the way automotive batteries and deep-cycle batteries are used is so great, that it may just be that use that makes the difference. An automotive battery is rarely discharged significantly, is only used at high current for a second or two at a time, and has a charging system keeping it up all of the time that it is in use (unless you make a habit of parking for long time running accessories).
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 06:27 AM   #35
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Signal Mountain (Chattanooga), Tennessee
Trailer: Escape 21 November 2014; 2016 Ram Eco-diesel 4WD Crew
Posts: 206
I also had the mystery propane alarms.
I am now on my third alarm. Each time the company says to send it in, that they will test it, and if defective they'll send a new one. Both times I get a new one, and the alarms stop in similar situations. I don't know if they actually test them and declare them faulty, or just send new ones.
So far, no charge, except to mail them in. Trailer is 20 months old and has had probably about 100 nights of use and is stored indoors at home, and plugged in.
Bill and Earline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 09:49 AM   #36
Senior Member
 
MyronL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Edgewood, New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 1,655
If my propane detector ever begins harassing me like you guys are reporting I think I will just cut it's wires and put my trust in the nature of things. IMHO so long as the tanks stay outside, much adoo about nothing.
__________________
Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
MyronL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 12:43 PM   #37
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 2,277
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL View Post
If my propane detector ever begins harassing me like you guys are reporting I think I will just cut it's wires and put my trust in the nature of things. IMHO so long as the tanks stay outside, much adoo about nothing.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. Ours has had a couple of nuisance alarms this year. When I relocated it I put spade terminals on the connection. Easy to stop the alarm now. The nose is a pretty good leak detector, I won't worry if I have to leave it unconnected for a few days. Just vacuumed it. If it gives false alarms this trip then I'll consider replacing it.

Ron
Ron in BC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 01:03 PM   #38
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Holland, Ohio
Trailer: 21 on Feb 28, 2017 2016 GMC Canyon Duramax
Posts: 287
I just sent Sarah an email asking if they could please leave a small loop of wire at the back of any device that might need replacement (propane detector, battery monitor etc) to make it easier to pull out.
stephen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2016, 02:44 PM   #39
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: College Station, Texas
Trailer: 2005 Fleetwood Pop up, Escape 21 April 2017
Posts: 68
Good idea. Please let us know what she says. Thanks.
casejh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2016, 01:49 PM   #40
Senior Member
 
escape artist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,403
Quote:
Originally Posted by C&G in FL View Post
Jill, while I wouldn't make that assumption having dealt with this problem, it may very well have been a valud alert. While conversing with the manufacturer, I was told that if a dog lays next to the detector, it could go off. And many things (outgassing, paint odors, etc.) Mine is installed in the front of the dinette bench, somewhat near and in the same compartment as the supposedly sealed battery box. Since the detector has openings on its front and back side, I have often wondered if slight amounts of hydrogen gas are leaking into the compartment and not all are going out of the battery's vent tube. I have found that opening the outside hatch and placing a small fan in the storage compartment will sometimes clear the problem and stop the alarm. But you haven't lived until a propane alarm rattles you out of a deep sleep betwee 1:00 and 4:00 AM (when ours typically goes off). That is why ours is now controlled by a toggle switch; shut it off and deal with it in the morning unless I smell propane. Yes, I want to know if there is a propane leak, but any technology that produces unexplainable phantom alarms like the "boy who cried wolf" can create other issues. While it is better to be safe than sorry, being awakened three nights in a row in the middle of the night when the detector functioned "flawlessly" (no other alarms) for the rest of that 72 hour period was a bit much for us. After screwing around with it for 15 minutes in the middle of the night, it is often difficult to fall asleep again.
Hi: C&G in FL... Just a quick question. "After screwing around with it for 15 minutes in the middle of the night, it is difficult to fall asleep again". Does that activity set off your motion detector too? Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
__________________

__________________
Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'10 Frontier CC. S.E. 4X4 Lng. Bed V6 '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas Ont.( Not the Virgin Islands)
escape artist is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.