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Old 06-26-2015, 12:20 AM   #1
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Propane tank is full but - - - -

This morning I woke up out of propane. Before I left on a short trip Monday I checked the automatic change over. didn't see any indication I was low so needless to say I was surprised. Five 3 nighters and I'm already out of fuel?

After getting home and getting ready to refill the tanks, son of a gun, I finde one tank was still full but no propane will come out. Oh, by the way, I did open the overflow valve and propane did come out. So my question: What would stop the propane from coming out?
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My understanding of how all this works is that if both tank valves are open and the auto-switchover is working properly, it will automatically start drawing from the reserve tank when the service tank is empty. This happens regardless of which bottle the black valve is pointing to. It’s a reminder of which tank is being used as the service tank. The pointer must be turned to point to the current service tank before disconnecting the empty tank. If not, gas will flow out of the disconnected pigtail.

If you got no gauge indication that the service tank was nearing empty, sounds like the changeover valve isn't working properly. Point the black valve at the full tank and disconnect the empty one. Valve open and still no gas?
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My understanding of how all this works is that if both tank valves are open and the auto-switchover is working properly, it will automatically start drawing from the reserve tank when the service tank is empty. This happens regardless of which bottle the black valve is pointing to. Itís a reminder of which tank is being used as the service tank. The pointer must be turned to point to the current service tank before disconnecting the empty tank. If not, gas will flow out of the disconnected pigtail.

If you got no gauge indication that the service tank was nearing empty, sounds like the changeover valve isn't working properly. Point the black valve at the full tank and disconnect the empty one. Valve open and still no gas?
I can't say the changeover valve is defective but the second tanks valve is. No propane will come out even with the hose disconnected. However; propane will come out of the overflow valve when I loosen the screw.

If this is going to involve replacing the tank I'll just limp along with one tank 'till I go back to ETI later this summer for a couple mods I have in mind.
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No propane will come out even with the hose disconnected.
It can't come out with the tank not connected to the hose because there's an OPD valve as a safety mechanism. You might try to connect the tank to a hose with no fitting on the other end then open the valve to see if gas comes out. If so, it could be a bad OPD fitting on that side. Or, try switching the tank positions so you're using the other fitting. If gas comes out, you've identified the problem.
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It can't come out with the tank not connected to the hose because there's an OPD valve as a safety mechanism. You might try to connect the tank to a hose with no fitting on the other end then open the valve to see if gas comes out. If so, it could be a bad OPD fitting on that tank. Or, try switching the tank positions so you're using the other fitting. If gas comes out, you've identified the problem.
Sheesh, goes to show how much I know about today's tanks I'll do what you suggested.

A little past midnight here and I followed your suggestion. Though I hate to admit it - you be th' man, Robert Propane is flowing again so the crossover valve must be at fault. I hope to head up to ETI next month and I"ll have them check it out.
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I've had a couple of different automatic switchover valve setups and have learned that they can be a little "sticky" at times. I regularly "rock and roll" the propane tank valves and indicator lever on dual setups just to make sure the swirchover is working freely. I like to see the indicator changeover so I know it's working, just my $.02
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I've had a couple of different automatic switchover valve setups and have learned that they can be a little "sticky" at times. I regularly "rock and roll" the propane tank valves and indicator lever on dual setups just to make sure the swirchover is working freely. I like to see the indicator changeover so I know it's working, just my $.02
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HI; rfs... I always thought you the "Rock n roll" type. Due to the very cold temp of propane those valves freeze up often. I drove propane powered full sized vans and at 60 mph on the four lanes is no time for it to freeze!!! Alf
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Alf, a lifetime of rock and roll, rock and rye, and rock the baby (yo-yo trick) has me thinking about buying a rock of ages and a little plot of ground. We used to use a fire extinguisher on the bottom half of a six pack to cool em down. Boss mentioned that we must be puttin out a lot of car fires, cause the fire ext bill was up. Templeton Rye, another story. See you in Sept. 4 seasons. Rock and roll.
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