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Old 09-07-2013, 05:29 PM   #31
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Yes, but once it happens, it is very hard to remove come next thaw, It is far better to have it empty and frozen vs dirty and frozen. That is the reason you should never leave you valve open while hooked up, the fluids drain leaving a dried up mess which the next time may not move itself. It is always best to keep your tanks filled with fluid before dumping solids, otherwise you will have problems.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:50 PM   #32
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Yes, but once it happens, it is very hard to remove come next thaw, It is far better to have it empty and frozen vs dirty and frozen. That is the reason you should never leave you valve open while hooked up, the fluids drain leaving a dried up mess which the next time may not move itself. It is always best to keep your tanks filled with fluid before dumping solids, otherwise you will have problems.
Agree completely with always dumping with full black tanks but winter store in Canada with a little anti freeze in the otherwise drained black/grey tanks.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:07 PM   #33
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Thanks for the responses.

I know sludge can build up in a stationary system but everything gets sloshed arond pretty well when we drive provided there is the usual fluid/semi-solid ratio. The expulsion pathway is extremely short at least to the hose so not like a septic system.

I know there will be times when cleaning the tanks is a really good idea but this looks like a solution looking for a problem. It seems like a lot of extra time and effort to do it on a regular basis for what likely isn't a problem except for the sensor system that at best is crude and in order to keep them working (and sometimes not accurately at that) you pretty much have to do it everytime.

Cleaning because you have to remove the tank or if the smell is unbearable I can see but there are always deodorants for the latter.

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Old 09-07-2013, 07:02 PM   #34
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I asked, Reace will not install a Quickie Flush.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:05 PM   #35
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Thanks for the responses.

I know sludge can build up in a stationary system but everything gets sloshed arond pretty well when we drive provided there is the usual fluid/semi-solid ratio. The expulsion pathway is extremely short at least to the hose so not like a septic system.

I know there will be times when cleaning the tanks is a really good idea but this looks like a solution looking for a problem. It seems like a lot of extra time and effort to do it on a regular basis for what likely isn't a problem except for the sensor system that at best is crude and in order to keep them working (and sometimes not accurately at that) you pretty much have to do it everytime.

Cleaning because you have to remove the tank or if the smell is unbearable I can see but there are always deodorants for the latter.

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The problem arises not in your discharge lines nor in your septic drain fields, it is in your holding tank.
Actually if you follow proper protocol, you may not need a flush, the flush could be considered a short cut for those instances you did not follow the accepted way.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:11 PM   #36
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They are very easy to install, a kit at CW is around $20, I have put several in. In the 19' the tank is very accessible, as in the new 21'. You drill an outside hole and mount a hose inlet, secure plastic tubing to the inside and run it to your tank, you drill another hole and attach a spinner fitting, seal and attach your plastic tubing. The only chance of leaks is while using the unit or if your install was not correct to the tank.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:16 PM   #37
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we use the wand that Reace sold us to clean the sensors--the grey often showed 1/3 "full" even when empty--so we filled it up totally with clean water, added a splash of simple green...rocked around a bit in the trailer to slosh it around---let it sit overnight and Doug cleaned it out really well today--bits of cruddy stuff came out and you can see the light shining through the tanks...Not cleaned for the "season" as we are going out in it next weekend but then it will be winterized...
The black tank has only had "yellow" stuff in it and those sensors seems to read well...I've heard the bag of ice cube trick at the end of a trip will help scrape things off the walls--so far haven't needed to do that!
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:18 PM   #38
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I asked, Reace will not install a Quickie Flush.
Did he give a reason?
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:40 PM   #39
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For what it is worth...I have been doing the ice cube thing along with an enzyme pouch on the trips home and so far so good.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #40
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Did he give a reason?
Possibly due to backflow prevention/anti siphoning issues.. one needs to be extra careful connecting public water supplies to plumbing connected to the grey/black water side of things .. lots of different rules in each and every jurisdiction.
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