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Old 09-16-2015, 10:39 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett View Post
Glad to see you got it all sorted out, Pat. A bit of a hassle, but with good results.

One of the biggest issues that any RV manufacturer faces, not only Escape, is to keep costs down. The one way to do that is to use the regular, run of the mill components found extensively in the industry. While those lights that Nathan linked to are great, if you use 4 of them you just added $160 to the build, and this is just one component of many that go into the build.

My thoughts are that the industry standard components lack quality largely due to the fact that they mostly see very little use. The vast majority of RV's out there spend almost their entire life in storage.

There are lots of standard items I would love to see upgraded, sinks, taps, stoves, interior panelling, toilets, fill and electrical hatches, drawer slides, and so one, but to address the potential concerns of all these features will push the price to a degree that will scare many people off. Just look at what happened to the Nest Caravan, an extremely well built unit using top quality components, but the final cost got pushed to where very few would be willing to pay the cost.

Just so long as the base elements of the trailer are sound, these individual items can be changed out at the owner's expense afterwards, if they so desire. Some things people want included, Escape will try to accommodate if reasonably possible. You have to remember that something like mounting the existing porch lights takes them less than a minute each, whereas using something supplied by the purchaser will mean they have to build a template to ensure the hole pattern works out, effectively multiplying the time taken by 3-10 times (just guessing here). Do this with a bunch of components on the build, and every other build, and it can drastically affect production time. This I know very well, doing custom building for people. Those production builders can knock off homes in no time, with their eyes closed, whereas every build we do is a prototype, requiring much more time to produce.

This is not to say that requesting higher level products is not a good thing, heck I do plan to do so with a few things myself, or if it is too much of a hassle for Escape, I will just install, or replace, them myself when needed.

Do remember, this post was written by a guy who loves to buy quality products in places where it matters to me. I do buy some cheaper items where longevity and usability are not key factors, but usually buy quality as I know most often there is value in doing so.

Jim, I think that this one of the best written and well reasoned posts I have read here in a long time. Thanks

Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)

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Old 09-16-2015, 11:04 AM   #92
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Hi: All... Finally I can leave the porch light on... just like Tom at Motel 6. The switch on the fixture was the culprit. Very touchy. The wires were soldered on and the blades quite loose. I can never remember the on/off position for the two switches so I leave the outside one on all the time, except when it didn't work. Managed to blow the fuse replacing the LED unit into the socket as the switch was on. 3rd fuse from the top red lighted...always carry spares. While I had the clear lens off I went to visit my RVTech and got an amber one 6 bucks. I like the look of the black fixture with the amber lens!!! Alf
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Old 09-18-2015, 06:42 PM   #93
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I don't understand that fuse blowing but then you do blow a lot of fuses, Alf!!

I noticed that the fixture is very bright no matter which cover. Hadn't noticed that before.
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Old 09-30-2015, 07:28 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by Patandlinda View Post
Tired of fooling around with light . I had sent message to Escape no response . Also concerning the big gap around our door (sent pics ) was supposed to hear about that today . Went and bought a new light about 9.00 . I got it without switch at bottom , I have a switch inside my door . Lot of fun removing light . It is held by 4 screws and there is a indentation to put a sealant in on back of light but it was glued to trailer . That was not necessary . Wired light up , put RTV silicone in grove at back , also on top of lens, down sides . put my lens back on with 2 small holes on bottom . Light works . Pat PS thank you Ron !
A follow up to the light soga . Just received a package from Escape with some backer rod to fix my door and money for the light as Reace had mentioned he would include . How 's that for customer service ? Pat

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