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02-07-2018, 11:34 AM
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Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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sewer connection at full service site
Hi,
I have a 2017 17B Escape with the sewer hose that is supplied by Escape. I have bought a hose support to use when I have a full hookup site. I am looking for suggestions of what to use to connect my stinky slinky to the sewer drain at my campsite.
I have simply stuck my hose into the opening of the sewer tank at the site, but would prefer something universal that would prevent sewer gas from leaking from the tank in the ground.
I have had no trouble dumping my tanks with the hose provided by Escape. I was at a site in November with full hookups and found I had to keep my tank valves closed anyway because of a drip. I wouldn't bother with another connector at all, but we are going to be camped for a month and I don't want to have to pull out of my site to dump tanks until I am ready to leave. I hope this makes sense to all those more experienced with this problem than I am. Thanks
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02-07-2018, 11:50 AM
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Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LisaTomBuddy
Hi,
I have a 2017 17B Escape with the sewer hose that is supplied by Escape. I have bought a hose support to use when I have a full hookup site. I am looking for suggestions of what to use to connect my stinky slinky to the sewer drain at my campsite.
I have simply stuck my hose into the opening of the sewer tank at the site, but would prefer something universal that would prevent sewer gas from leaking from the tank in the ground.
I have had no trouble dumping my tanks with the hose provided by Escape. I was at a site in November with full hookups and found I had to keep my tank valves closed anyway because of a drip. I wouldn't bother with another connector at all, but we are going to be camped for a month and I don't want to have to pull out of my site to dump tanks until I am ready to leave. I hope this makes sense to all those more experienced with this problem than I am. Thanks
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Many use the Rhino brand hoses and accessories. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what is sounds like you are missing is the elbow and what they call the 4-in-1 dump fitting. It can either be held in place with something placed on top or has 3 different thread diameters where one would screw into the campsite sewer connection if available or at the dump station if applicable. Just as a reminder, even if you are hooked up to sewer you should leave your gray and black tank valves closed until your tanks are almost full. This prevents sewer gases from entering the trailer.
www.amazon.com/Camco-RhinoFLEX-Translucent-Frustration-Free-Packaging/dp/B01HPHR2M4
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02-07-2018, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Durham, North Carolina
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You could consider getting a Rhino Flex. Its a superior product to the hose Escape provides and it allows you to connect to a drain in a more secure fashion. The 15' will fit in the sewer tube. I don't think a 20' will.
I recommend keeping your valves closed until you are ready to dump or your tanks are 1/2 full or so. Leaving the valve open could cause solids to remain in the tank because there isn't enough liquid to flush it out.
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02-07-2018, 11:53 AM
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Keeping valves closed also allows solids to break up in the black tank instead of creating a pyramid. When almost full, you can empty the black, followed by flushing the hose with grey water.
Recommend Odorlos in both the black and grey tanks.
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02-07-2018, 12:01 PM
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Also be aware that several campgrounds actually require a seal between the sewer hose and the sewer drain. The stock sewer hose doesn't provide that. You can add one of those rubber or neoprene donuts on the end of it to create a seal however. I like the Rhinoflex as others have mentioned. It comes with a fitting for the drain end that is threaded for different sized pipes. All the campgrounds I've encountered where a seal is required have threaded drains.
Regarding the other issue you mentioned, always leave your black tank valve shut unless you are actually dumping. In our case, we don't hook up the sewer hose at all unless we are dumping. One less thing to trip over or worry about, and I just think leaving it connected looks unsightly.
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02-07-2018, 12:17 PM
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Speaking of putting stuff away, I don't have one of those trestle things to support the hose. It's just one more thing to set up and one more thing to store. All you have to do when most of the contents are down the drain, is lift the hose with your hand, starting at the trailer and work toward the drain. You will be able to feel liquid running, if there is any left.
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02-07-2018, 12:29 PM
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Speaking of putting stuff away, I don't have one of those trestle things to support the hose. It's just one more thing to set up and one more thing to store. All you have to do when most of the contents are down the drain, is lift the hose with your hand, starting at the trailer and work toward the drain. You will be able to feel liquid running, if there is any left.
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While it's true that it's one more thing to put away, it also keeps the sewer hose out of the dirt, stones and pine needles... things that puncture sewer hoses. PLUS, in my case, keeps it out of the mud...when it's been raining. The Sidewinder I use collapses to about a foot square. I'd much rather turn on the hose bib and rinse the Sidewinder than the outside of the sewer hose. YMMV.
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02-07-2018, 12:34 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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How do you put this in your grey tank?
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02-07-2018, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LisaTomBuddy
How do you put this in your grey tank?
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Odorlos? Pour it in the drain.
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02-07-2018, 12:37 PM
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Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Thanks, I didn't know if the product was a liquid or a powder.
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02-07-2018, 01:11 PM
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Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
Just as a reminder, even if you are hooked up to sewer you should leave your gray and black tank valves closed until your tanks are almost full. This prevents sewer gases from entering the trailer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rotateclockwise
I recommend keeping your valves closed until you are ready to dump or your tanks are 1/2 full or so.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Keeping valves closed also allows solids to break up in the black tank instead of creating a pyramid.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Regarding the other issue you mentioned, always leave your black tank valve shut unless you are actually dumping.
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Seems to be a theme here. If the above is not enough, here is a friendly reminder direct from the ETI Owner's Manual.
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02-07-2018, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Keeping valves closed also allows solids to break up in the black tank instead of creating a pyramid. When almost full, you can empty the black, followed by flushing the hose with grey water.
Recommend Odorlos in both the black and grey tanks.
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We also use and recommend "Odorless "Pat
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02-07-2018, 02:44 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
Seems to be a theme here. If the above is not enough, here is a friendly reminder direct from the ETI Owner's Manual.
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Owner's manual aside, there was a fairly thorough discussion on this or another forum that 2 liters of re-fill water won't even fill the drain pipe of the black tank in a new generation 21' (not sure about other models and generations). I think it was generally agreed that the black tank (and by association, its drain pipe) should be re-filled until there is 1" - 2" of standing water in the bottom of the tank. I'll look for it, but can anyone else quickly find and link that prior discussion in case there is further interest in the topic?
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02-07-2018, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
Owner's manual aside, there was a fairly thorough discussion on this or another forum that 2 liters of re-fill water won't even fill the drain pipe of the black tank in a new generation 21' (not sure about other models and generations). I think it was generally agreed that the black tank (and by association, its drain pipe) should be re-filled until there is 1" - 2" of standing water in the bottom of the tank. I'll look for it, but can anyone else quickly find and link that prior discussion in case there is further interest in the topic?
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http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f9...tml#post204625
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02-07-2018, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Speaking of putting stuff away, I don't have one of those trestle things to support the hose. It's just one more thing to set up and one more thing to store. All you have to do when most of the contents are down the drain, is lift the hose with your hand, starting at the trailer and work toward the drain. You will be able to feel liquid running, if there is any left.
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Some campgrounds insist on having the sewer hose lifted. Happened to us in Benson AZ, went to Wallmart only one they had was aluminum stretch type one, expensive but easy to store away, have always used this since when we have a sewer hookup at a site.
Adrian
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02-07-2018, 03:30 PM
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Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
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Thanks Dave, That's it. I was searching for "black tank," and that wasn't pulling up the "black or gray tank" link in the top choices. Anyway, as the link finally arrives at from a couple different directions, the take-home message was that, in a new generation 21', it takes between 5 and 6 gallons of water to get 1" to 2" of standing water in the bottom of the black tank. Thanks again....
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