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Old 05-15-2012, 03:15 PM   #1
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Sewer hose container

As many have already posted, we found the problem with the container for the sewer hose to be problematic.

There are some things that are standards in the RV world. The size of sewer hoses and their containers is one such standard. Why Escape Trailers did not follow that standard is quite a puzzle. Granted, it is much cheaper to buy 4" PVC pipe (measured from the outside) and just stick connectors on the ends. Unfortunately, this will not accommodate the standard size of hoses for RVs.

We purchased a very, very nice sewer hose since the super-thin material on the one that came with the trailer had sprung a leak almost immediately. Being newbies, we were clueless as to why it did not fit. We assumed there were multiple sizes and that we had mistakenly gotten the wrong one. This proved to be incorrect. Our nice new hose was the standard size. We tried to modify it and ended up just throwing it out when we could not get it to fit. (Bad -- lotsa $$$ gone. It was a pricey hose, after all.)

As we have learned (from you guys, actually), Escape Trailers, et.al., modified the hose that came with the trailer to get it to fit into that white holder on the back. We decided that having to use a Dremel and sand down the connectors was not a good idea for the long term. It does weaken the connectors, but moreover, it doesn't solve the issue of having a plastic sewer connector on the other end (the one that fits the sewer hole in the ground.) Of course, the hose that came with the trailer had no such end connector, but that meant the hose just drops down the sewer pipe. We really wanted standard connectors.

Furthermore, the wood that was used as a saddle was just a thin piece of pine. Subject to deterioration and failure.

Our solution was to purchase a standard sewer hose container from Camping World. We threw the original, non-standard container away. We tried drilling new holes into the wood and the pine split into pieces.

Then we decided to just drill into the metal instead. We bought metal plumber's tape and got self-tapping (aka 'self-drilling') screws from the hardware store and just attached the new container to the metal frame. We left the remaining wood saddle there, but probably will replace them at some point since they surely will deteriorate eventually.

I will post pictures of what we did soon.

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Old 05-15-2012, 04:06 PM   #2
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:14 PM   #3
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Re: Sewer hose container

Sorry to learn of your difficulty. I have a standard hose with connectors at both ends that fits in the tube that came with my 2009. The only part that doesn't fit is the right angled end that goes in the sewer opening. (I keep that separately bagged and with the exterior water hoses.) I had another metal tube holder on an older but high end travel trailer and the right angled connector did not fit in there either. Perhaps that hose that comes with the Escape is for limited use, as the original that came with mine got mooshed when I accidentally stepped on it.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:12 PM   #4
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Re: Sewer hose container

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the problem isn't that the hose doesn't fit in the tube provided, it's that the right-angle connector for hooking into the site sewer won't fit in the pipe. Correct? I'm sure that the right angle connector on our 2006 17 fit in that tube just fine. The ones on the 19 must be different.

And, the hose holder pipe on our 2006 17 was mounted on top of the frame, right in front of the spare tire. Won't the hose holder for the 19 fit back there as well?

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Old 05-16-2012, 01:03 PM   #5
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Yes, the right angled connector but *also* the connector that attaches to the trailer (with the claws -- this is what was sanded down with a Dremel on the original hose).

We know for a fact that the container is nonstandard since we measured it. It is just plain 4" pvc pipe. (Unlike metal pipe, these are measured as an outside diameter. So we know the inside diameter is less than 4".

We know that the connectors that are standard for sewer hoses are larger than this. We also know that the standard containers that are fabricated especially for RV hoses are larger than 4" PVC pipe.

The containers that are made for RV hoses are what should be attached to RVs. The one that came on our 2011 19ft trailer was custom-made from standard 4" PVC pipe.

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So, if the connector on the hose isn't standard, then the receptacle on the trailer must not be standard either. Therefore, if I get a "standard" hose and a larger storage container, will I have to change out the receptacle on the trailer as well What a PITA that would be !

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Old 05-16-2012, 02:28 PM   #7
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Re: Sewer hose container

The best thing to do would be to call Escape and talk to Tammy or Reace. I re-used and am still using the original connector. The only part that does not fit is the "right-angled" fitting. The connector that connects to that at the far end of the hose fits in also. A useful hint: put a sturdy "string" under one of the end clamps in case the slinky gets too far back to comfortably reach. I used string trimmer line (.06), and put a loop on the grabbing end.
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Re: Sewer hose container

Doug, the hose supplied has the same connections as any RV drain hose. The ones that come with the trailers are not as bulky as most, so fit in the tubes fine. I think all the trailers now have them installed underneath.

Granted, the supplied hoses are not the toughest and don't come with an angled adapter, but I have not had many issues with it and only had to patch one small hole in mine in 3 years.

If someone wants to upgrade the hose instead of replacing it, often a larger tube will be needed. They can be bought from any RV dealer for pretty much the same cost as a good hose, and are easy to to install (or just have them install). I have plans to do just this when I replace my sewer hose.

It really is not that big of a deal (to me), and is nothing to be jumping up and down about. Escape trailers are built with quality where it counts, and some features are of less quality than lots of the options available. If they did not make some of these compromises, costs would go up, as would the base weight of the trailer.
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Re: Sewer hose container

Jim,

Me too. As in, ditto.

I had to replace an end connector, but only because I tossed the hose on the ground, which was actually cement, and broke a flange. I did have to file down the new one to make it fit in the holder. Haven't had any issue with the hose itself in four years.

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Old 05-16-2012, 08:51 PM   #10
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Re: Sewer hose container

Wanting to have a bit more "skookum" hose we went to Canadian Tire today and low and behold they had a very nice Rhino hose with caps for the ends and the 90-degree site sewer connector included. It also has the racheting (don't know what the correct term is) corrugations which helps the hose hold its shape. The price was about the same as from Camping World so overall it was less since we didn't have to pay shipping. Now all we need is the larger tube which we will likely get from CW and mount it the same way Paul S. did.

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