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11-21-2014, 12:23 AM
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#141
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by hotfishtacos
I've taken about 235 showers since this thread started...probably about 30 in my trailer...
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One a week, that would be 2010?
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11-21-2014, 10:21 AM
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#142
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
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The US uses more than 1 trillion gallons of water per annum for showering . Anyone who has had teenage kids living at home knows that an 8 minute shower is on the low end . My one daughter's (We have four) shower always ended when the fifty gallon hot water tank ran out of hot water . It was the subject of numerous discussions / arguments !
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11-21-2014, 10:54 AM
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Having 5 daughters they got 1 warning then if they didn't 't hurry it up , we shut the water to house off . Later on gave them the bill to pay . Then the shoe was on the other foot they did not want us to water plants etc. They are all grown now and turned out alright .
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11-21-2014, 11:26 AM
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#144
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Senior Member
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Location: Delta, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Having 5 daughters they got 1 warning then if they didn't 't hurry it up , we shut the water to house off . Later on gave them the bill to pay . Then the shoe was on the other foot they did not want us to water plants etc. They are all grown now and turned out alright .
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Only two kids here but that threat didn't work (they took showers when I wasn't home) and now that they are grown up I don't have clue how long the showers are.
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11-21-2014, 11:53 AM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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My opinion. For the most part, in North America anyway, we shower WAY more than we need. Cleanliness for the sake of good health is extremely important, showering for the sake of vanity, not so much. I know people who shower because they were wearing a hat, or have bed head. Why not just wet your hair and brush/comb? I know people who shower everyday before and after work, as they don't want to change into clean clothes without doing so. Some of these people also insist on washing clothes after just one wear. To each their own I guess, just not my chosen way of doing things.
We install dozens of hot water heaters every year, and at least 90% are high-efficient, on-demand, ones. While the energy savings for fuel consumption is nice, we have customers that complain that now their kids can hang out in the shower all day without the hot water running out. I do applaud Pat and Linda for education their daughters in a way they would understand on hot water usage.
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11-21-2014, 12:41 PM
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#146
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I know people who shower because they were wearing a hat, or have bed head.
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Ah, the virtues of being a baldy like us! No bed head possible.
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11-21-2014, 01:18 PM
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#147
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by rbryan4
Ah, the virtues of being a baldy like us! No bed head possible.
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For certain. I so love it. I have had it this way for 15 years now. Love the low maintenace, and lack of hat head all the time. A quick wipe of entire head with a warm cloth is extremely refreshing too.
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11-21-2014, 02:24 PM
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#148
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Senior Member
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Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
For certain. I so love it. I have had it this way for 15 years now. Love the low maintenace, and lack of hat head all the time. A quick wipe of entire head with a warm cloth is extremely refreshing too.
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Sure but do you provide sunglasses to those around you?
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11-21-2014, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
My opinion. For the most part, in North America anyway, we shower WAY more than we need. Cleanliness for the sake of good health is extremely important, showering for the sake of vanity, not so much. I know people who shower because they were wearing a hat, or have bed head. Why not just wet your hair and brush/comb? I know people who shower everyday before and after work, as they don't want to change into clean clothes without doing so. Some of these people also insist on washing clothes after just one wear. To each their own I guess, just not my chosen way of doing things.
We install dozens of hot water heaters every year, and at least 90% are high-efficient, on-demand, ones. While the energy savings for fuel consumption is nice, we have customers that complain that now their kids can hang out in the shower all day without the hot water running out. I do applaud Pat and Linda for education their daughters in a way they would understand on hot water usage.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here Jim. Is the water consumption or the fuel consumption bothering you. Here in the Garibaldi Highlands, BC., we get an average of 7 feet of rain a year. So...water consumption (regarding the use of the shower) is not really an issue. Fuel to heat the water is another thing.
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11-21-2014, 03:44 PM
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#150
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Location: Ventura County, California
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The Value
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Ah, the virtues of being a baldy like us! No bed head possible.
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As one who has been bald for 48 years, I can say that we must mention:
God does not put marble tops on cheap furniture!
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11-21-2014, 03:46 PM
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#151
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
Sure but do you provide sunglasses to those around you?
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No way, it is the only way I can seem bright!
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
I'm not sure what you're getting at here Jim. Is the water consumption or the fuel consumption bothering you. Here in the Garibaldi Highlands, BC., we get an average of 7 feet of rain a year. So...water consumption (regarding the use of the shower) is not really an issue. Fuel to heat the water is another thing.
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Both, actually. And it really is just a comment on what some folks feel is required, something that I don't see the same way. I would bet there are WAY more areas in North America that have a shortage of water, than an excess. There are predictions even for Calgary, with all its runoffs from the mountains, and receding glaciers, that we can expect way less water into the future. And the costs are not just that to heat the water, but those of water, and on the other end sewage, treatment.
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11-21-2014, 04:51 PM
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#152
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Senior Member
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Location: Santa Rosa County, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
My opinion. For the most part, in North America anyway, we shower WAY more than we need.
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Indeed. In "Packing for Mars" author Mary Roach described NASA's experiments in human cleanliness during the Apollo program. It appears that human skin is happiest with a five-day build-up of oils. One researcher said, "Personal hygiene as practiced in the U.S. today is largely a cultural fetish, actively promoted by those with commercial interests."
Reading her book made me squirm. Eeeww.
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11-21-2014, 04:57 PM
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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And then, there's all that anti-bacterial soap that's being flushed into the drains.
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11-21-2014, 05:02 PM
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
... It appears that human skin is happiest with a five-day build-up of oils...
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My typical day at home has at least 2 showers. I have done the 5 day without showers while canoe camping, but you would have to stay up wind of me to be able to tolerate me. When staying in the Escape, frequency of showers is probably about 1 per 3 days if using the Escape showers, and 1 per day if using campground facilities.
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11-21-2014, 05:07 PM
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#155
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
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[QUOTE=Mike Lewis;74032]
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
My opinion. For the most part, in North America anyway, we shower WAY more than we need.
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Indeed. In "Packing for Mars" author Mary Roach described NASA's experiments in human cleanliness during the Apollo program. It appears that human skin is happiest with a five-day build-up of oils. One researcher said, "Personal hygiene as practiced in the U.S. today is largely a cultural fetish, actively promoted by those with commercial interests."
Reading her book made me squirm. Eeeww.
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Being told you smell like an old boar hog can hurt your feelings. Loren
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11-21-2014, 05:31 PM
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#156
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Location: Oswego, New York
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When dry camping, I do a navy shower every 4-5 days or so. if the campground has showers, every other day. At home, at least one a day - I need one if I go for a jog in the AM, and I usually swim laps at lunchtime & it is necessary because of the chlorine.
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11-21-2014, 05:37 PM
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#157
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Surrey B.C., British Columbia
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Since I suffer from acid reflux I keep the trailer just over an inch from level. We sleep with our heads on the driver or emergency window side. The benefit to this is I can drink beer, scotch etc. and the shower drains efficiently. The sink also drains better. We use the trailer shower when the need arrises.
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11-21-2014, 07:26 PM
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Ditto that...
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11-21-2014, 08:19 PM
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#159
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Myron, you smell great from here.
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11-21-2014, 08:35 PM
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#160
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Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
And then, there's all that anti-bacterial soap that's being flushed into the drains.
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Is that worse or better than anything else in the bowels of the infrastructure?
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