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Old 08-21-2014, 12:08 PM   #131
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You wnated pictures, you'll get pictures.!

Today i received some photo's from the people who are putting the new axle under the Escape.

First of course the "old" axle has to come off.

After that you'll have a clear view on the "old" mounting brackets.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:11 PM   #132
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Then they start grinding, welding, some grinding and you'll end up with something like this...

New mounting brackets are fabricated, axle is placed, mounting brackets are painted.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:12 PM   #133
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Wheels are put on, for now it will be steel wheels, maybe later on we will replace them for some nice alloy ones.

What's left to do?

Remove the Kingpin coupling and replace it by the 5th wheel EU coupling. Get things approved by our DMV.

In one of the pictures you can see the truckbed part of the EU coupling in place already. This not our truck but a similar one which is owned by the people who are replacing our axle.

Mind you, the cover plate of the coupling is in place in the pictures and you do have a completely flat truckbed when you do not use the coupler.

Have fun!

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Old 08-21-2014, 12:29 PM   #134
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You wnated pictures, you'll get pictures.!

Today i received some photo's from the people who are putting the new axle under the Escape.

First of course the "old" axle has to come off.

After that you'll have a clear view on the "old" mounting brackets.
I probably missed it in previous threads but what is the difference between the old axle and the EU approved one?

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Old 08-21-2014, 12:48 PM   #135
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New mounting brackets are fabricated, axle is placed, mounting brackets are painted.
That would have been lot of grinding, since the nice solid brackets that Escape welds to the frame are specific to the Torflex and presumably had to come off to fit the new axle (which looks like an AL-KO).

I see that the new axle mounting brackets are further apart, and the new frame-side brackets are cantilevered out to match. I can only guess that the new axle has the same hub-to-hub width, but does not allow the same overhang beyond the frame to the hub as the original Dexter Torflex.

It is good to see the material taped to the body to protect the fiberglass during grinding and welding.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:53 PM   #136
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Going to guess they have done this kind of work more then once. Seef will explain the axles at some point I do believe if you use Google search you can find the posts he explained some of the required changes.
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:21 PM   #137
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Yes, Seef mentioned the reason for the axle swap, in post #39 of this very thread:
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The "problem" with the axle is that the brakes are not EU certified, we will be changing the axle for the same type/brand with EU certified brakes.

The axle swap itself should be fairly easy i guess.
I don't think Dexter sells axles in Europe - at least not the same models - so the swap needed to be to a different product of the same general design (rubber-sprung independent)... and so it looks like it was not quite as straightforward as one might hope.
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Severinus and Yvonne, looks as if you are almost ready to get going. Very exciting to go off to Italy in the only Escape anyone is going to see there. Happy travels.
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Old 08-22-2014, 04:02 PM   #139
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Hi guys,

Good to see you guys pay attention. These axles are indeed different from the stock ones.

The idea was to replace the stock dexter axle with the same type Dexter but then with an EU certification.

It turns out these axles are sold in the Netherlands but the company that does the axle swap and get's the rig DMV approved does not use them since they do not have a certified brake system for them.... So.... They used a KNOTT axle which is very common over here in Europe and they do have a certified electrical brake system for these KNOTT axles. As was to be expected, the mounting bracket on a KNOTT axle are different from the mounting brackets of a Dexter axle.

For the record, they do sell the same Dexter axle over here with a certified electrical brake system.

The guys doin this conversion are used to build 5th wheel trailer of all kind so they do know what they are doing. And go by the principle measure at least twice, build once.

Anyway, it looks like they get it all done by monday and have it inspected on friday at the latest. Our TV will be ready then too so if all works out we will be picking up the whole set on next Friday or Saturday.

We will keep you posted.

Have fun!

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Old 08-22-2014, 04:26 PM   #140
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Anyway, it looks like they get it all done by monday and have it inspected on friday at the latest. Our TV will be ready then too so if all works out we will be picking up the whole set on next Friday or Saturday.
This will be an exciting event for you, to get to actually use your trailer and tow together. Nice!
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