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Old 06-20-2014, 02:35 PM   #41
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Here's a pic of our latest rig!!! Alf
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Alf,

you are just making us more "hungry" for our trailer. Thanks for the reminder.

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Old 06-20-2014, 02:38 PM   #42
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Go Netherlands!
They are still in it aren't they?
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Old 06-20-2014, 02:42 PM   #43
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Hi Seef,
Thanks for the feedback.
My son lives in France and my wife is from England. One day we may consider shipping our trailer to Europe. You never know. There are lots of electrical alterations that you have to do, but I am confident that you can find the right people to make the changes. Please continue to have fun.
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I would say, go for IT!

In fact the electrical alterations are not that many and i'm not scared by them, i can manage that myself. 12V is the same overhere.

It is just the fridge, the battery charger and the circuitbrakers.

The cabling you guys use is more then sufficient since by doubling the voltage, the amps drop more or less by half.

1 thing is worth considering:

The 120V outlets are different then our 240V outlets. Change the outlets? Or just buy a bunch of these: http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Round-.../dp/B002TZBW74

I think the latter will be the cheapest option.

I'm still hoping the fridge is actually a 120-240V model since we canb buy the exact same model fridge overhere on 240V. If not, a not to expensive tranformator will do.

The biggest investment will be the battery charger i guess. I understnad all the lighting is 12V.

As i said, i can manage the electrical part myself.

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Old 06-20-2014, 02:46 PM   #44
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Apart from the electrical issues are all these changes needed only if the trailer is going to stay in the European countries. I wonder, what if the trailer and passengers were on a 6 month visitors visa?
I'm guessing not, it's your trailer and you won't be importing it, it will have it's original license plate. The one thing you should consider is the TV. Bring your own, that saves a lot of trouble with the hitch etc.

All you need is 1 bigger transformator for the whole system, i do not know how much power draw the whole trailer will have but it will be doable. Oh yeah, bring an extra shorepower cord. So you can replace the shoreside plug for a EU type, that's it.

I know you can bring your own trailer and tug to the EU without to much trouble.

Make sure to drop a line when you decide to come over to Europe. Beertime!

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Old 06-20-2014, 02:49 PM   #45
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That I do not know anything about, I'm merely referring to the electrical. Also wondering about the door issue, remember most European models have the door on the opposite side.
Hmm, we never thought of that, just a quick check.......

Escape 5.0 has the door on the left side so have most of the European trailers. Maybe you're referring to England trailers??

Remember on the mainland in Europe we drive on the right side of the road just as you guys do. Only England (In Europe) is driving on the wrong side of the road.

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Old 06-20-2014, 02:51 PM   #46
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It is really great watching your trailer travel around the world. You must be very excited! I was a little worried when the freighter was near the hurricane in the Pacific near Baja...worried it would bang around in the container. Hopefully it will be perfect when the container is eventually opened. We're watching!
Oops, we never thought of that one.

Let's hope it is still in good nick when it arrives.

Thanks for your concern.

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Old 06-20-2014, 02:52 PM   #47
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This has been most enjoyable. I can only imagine how much Severinus and Yvonne are enjoying this as well.
Hi Snadra,

at this point in time we're loosing sleep over it.

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Old 06-20-2014, 05:20 PM   #48
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The "problem" with the axle is that the brakes are not EU certified, we will be changing the axle for the same type/brand with EU certified brakes.

The axle swap itself should be fairly easy i guess.
Interesting... it seems that AL-KO Kober and BPW are the big trailer chassis suppliers in Europe; I didn't know Dexter even operated there. They do: the distributor appears to be Boopark BV.

If it really is the same brand with exactly the same brackets, the swap will be easy. If not, some grinding and welding will be required, but it should still not be a problem.
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Old 06-20-2014, 05:38 PM   #49
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The hitch is a different story by itself. Although we can get conventional Kingpin hitches we are leaning towards a different option, there's a company overhere that makes 5th wheel hitches the dutch way. The hitch is EU certified but is way different than the kingpin hitch. It's more like a goosneck coupler (Fifth Wheel Europe - Welkom)
Advantage: It uses a bowl in the truck bed. that means when you're not using the hitch you will have a completely flat truck bed.
Downside: The kingpin coupler on the Escape needs to be converted to this type of coupler.

As the kingpin needs to be replaced anyhow (EU certifications again). This is a option worth to explore. It will be more expensive then just replace the kingpin but the flat truckbed is appealing to us since we're not retired yet and will be using the trailer just 4-6 weeks a year for the next 10 years.
Thanks - that's an interesting system.

The English version (obtained by clicking the UK flag on the main page): Fifth Wheel Europe - Welcome

The coupling itself is shown on this page: Fifth Wheel Europe - Product - Kogelkoppeling (EG goedgekeurd) It is a ball (on the trailer) and socket (in the truck), which is inverted from the North American practice (of a ball on the tug and coupler on the trailer); it is not really a fifth-wheel. Yes, here it is common to refer to this as a "gooseneck" hitch - "gooseneck" really describes a type of trailer, not of hitch, but gooseneck trailers commonly (but certainly not always) use a ball-and-socket style of hitch. Many people here (although still a small minority) convert their large fifth-wheel RV trailers to ball-and-socket systems (using our coupler-on-the-trailer arrangement), for similar reasons.

This reasoning makes perfect sense to me. If the trailer side of the hardware bolts into the existing upper portion of the pinbox, it could be easily converted back, or to another hitch system. A custom bracket would need to be built to transition from the Escape's upper pinbox portion to the new hitch's ball mounting plate. I suggest checking with Reace at ETI to be sure that the Escape's structure will be okay with the extension to reach down to the truck bed level.

One of the rotating photos on this company's main page shows the ball in detail, above the socket in the bed (ready to be lowered) and with the locking collar on top of the ball (which looks like it rotates to latch into the top of the socket. I grabbed that photo and will include it here...
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Old 06-20-2014, 05:45 PM   #50
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I'm still hoping the fridge is actually a 120-240V model since we can buy the exact same model fridge overhere on 240V.
That could be, but it seems unlikely to me. Equipment that runs on a wide range of voltages is usually using an electronic power supply to convert to a lower voltage. The refrigerator feeds the 120 volt (or 240 volt) AC power to a simple heating element, without a variable controller. I suspect that they just put different heating elements in depending on the destination.
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