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Old 09-24-2016, 06:57 PM   #41
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The stop was for NOT stopping at the check station- that was the Sheriff's job. Not inspecting, though I'm surprised they didn't send you back to get it inspected. Good luck, though, I do think going after out-of-state visitors for things like this is bad business for a state- a warning and sending you back to the inspection station should have sufficed.
The wet behind the ears Deputy driving a pickup did take me 5 miles back to the inspection station where two young females with clipboards took my name address but did not inspect the kayak at all.
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:08 PM   #42
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I can name that sign with 14 letters. IF IT FLOATS, STOP ought to cover everything down to and including a life jacket.
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Everything? "Hey, stop where you are!"

(Edit: actually, I know a float plane pilot, and they have a protocol)
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:50 PM   #43
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Old 09-24-2016, 10:40 PM   #44
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Society is the best ratification of the bell curve distribution principle there will ever be, huh?
U got that right. That book is still banned in many places. Too "controversial" to say some aren't as bright as others...
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They even make a "floating" Class A RV
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:56 AM   #46
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RV. Amphibious

I'd like to see one of those " locking through" on the Mississippi. I've ridden on the DWKs in the Wisconsin Dells years ago, affectionately known as The Ducks. Looks like we've had a fairly long term fascination with amphibious vehicles. Oh well, just more words on the signs.
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Old 09-25-2016, 10:10 AM   #47
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(Edit: actually, I know a float plane pilot, and they have a protocol)
They might have a bit of trouble cleaning and inspecting if taking off from one lake and landing in another. Kinda hard to do when in flight.
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I thought that was Photoshopped until I opened your link Jon.
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Old 09-25-2016, 12:42 PM   #49
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They might have a bit of trouble cleaning and inspecting if taking off from one lake and landing in another. Kinda hard to do when in flight.
But easy enough to do just before takeoff, minimizing the quantity of contamination. There are more details in those protocols, such the ones from Minnesota, Ontario, and Alaska... which look very similar, presumably because they are describing a consistent practice.
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But easy enough to do just before takeoff, minimizing the quantity of contamination. There are more details in those protocols, such the ones from Minnesota, Ontario, and Alaska... which look very similar, presumably because they are describing a consistent practice.
It would be easy to clear any plants, but cleaning stuff like mussels off the underside of the floats would be a bit of a pain. I guess do what you can to minimise the risk.
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Old 09-25-2016, 12:58 PM   #51
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It would be easy to clear any plants, but cleaning stuff like mussels off the underside of the floats would be a bit of a pain. I guess do what you can to minimise the risk.
Yes, like the bottom of a boat. The boats come out on a trailer (if they are moving to another body of water, causing the concern), which makes it much easier of course; however, floatplanes can come out of the water, too (on their own wheels in many cases, and on a dolly at a floatplane base in others).
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Teasel

Teasel is a nasty invasive with a tough bristled seed head. It grows in big patches when it really gets going. Those float plane pilots are pretty talented. If you could find a field of teasel, skim the tops with the pontoons after slathering them with herbicide, you could knock the mussels off, kill the teasel in one shot. Multitasking, it's where it's at.
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Old 11-24-2016, 05:36 PM   #53
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It clearly didn't help having California tags(everyone knows to go to DMV first when moving to OR). Looking at ORS 830.998 ORS 830.998 - Penalty for failing to stop at an aquatic invasive species check station - 2015 Oregon Revised Statutes and then ORS 830.589 ORS 830.589 - Watercraft check stations - 2015 Oregon Revised Statutes I see that the stop didn't comply with Rule #3 or #4. No uniformed person with Fish & Wildlife or Marine or Agriculture Board- was a Klamath Deputy Sheriff. They also didn't inspect. Am doing a trial by affadavit; will report back any luck with that
As many no doubt predicted I had only bad luck- the decision against me was as rubber stamped as the Judge''s signature. I seriously contemplated not paying the fine but dug down and found that could have resulted in an arrest warrant for contempt of court. So I paid under protest with the promise of filing a complaint with the DOJ next year when there is real change. Even Lynch said recently that states should stop treating citizens like an ATM.
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Sorry to hear it did not go so good for you, Ross.
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Even Lynch said recently that states should stop treating citizens like an ATM.
Amen to that. I'm a firm believer in the rule of law, but also a firm believer that the spirit of the law is often more important than the letter. It needs to look at intent.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:08 PM   #56
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Amen to that. I'm a firm believer in the rule of law, but also a firm believer that the spirit of the law is often more important than the letter. It needs to look at intent.
Like, "I didn't intend to get caught"?
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Can't say I'm thrilled with this situation because I travel through a lot of states with kayaks. I've never seen any signs on highways that required pulling over for an inspection and only once, at a campground, the operator asked if the kayaks were inspected. When I said no, they said they'd have to be inspected before they could be put in the lake. No problem I said, just passing through.

It'd be nice if all the states had a rule like, if it's not in the water it doesn't need an inspection or a permit.

Oh well, one more thing to keep an eye out for.

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