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Old 03-02-2016, 02:16 PM   #11
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If I were buying a Toyota, I would make free map updates a condition of the sale ( or at least try to ).
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Old 03-02-2016, 07:31 PM   #12
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I've thought about getting the RV version for when I use the trailer and I was wondering if it was worthwhile since we're not pulling big-ass trailers around the country.
That's what I was thinking. If I had a big Allegro motorhome (MSRP $440,000+) like the two I parked between last week, I'd have a GPS for RVs. But our trailers aren't very big and for the most part will go where our tow vehicles will go. I think that if the RV-specific GPS costs more, it probably isn't worth it for us.

BTW- for those of you who have Android devices with a GPS feature and external storage, there is a GPS navigation app called CoPilot that works pretty well. It has its own maps that are downloaded onto the device, so you don't need an Internet connection to use it. The maps take a couple of gigabytes though, hence the need for external storage. CoPilot has an RV mode but I don't think I've used it. I bought the app several years ago for $20. I bought it initially for a smartphone but now I use it on a Samsung tablet mounted on a floor mount in my pickup when traveling.
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Clarification: By "external storage" I meant an SDcard slot, so I should have said "removable storage".
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:36 AM   #14
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Holy Cow! I was not aware of that! With our Garmin we got the lifetime updates and we get frequent emails about updates.

Um yeah, I think I'll stick with the freestanding GPS. Holy cow! Thanks for that info.
I just updated my Nissan and Silverado. Something like $160 each. Ripoff. Still doing it every 2 years. Nissan finally shows Ohio speed limits at 70 mph after 3 years of having changed.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:47 AM   #15
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GPS on the Android phone with Google maps has been working fine for us. Used it on the Phoenix to Chilliwack trailer PU with no issues. No addl costs for app or updates.
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GPS on the Android phone with Google maps has been working fine for us. Used it on the Phoenix to Chilliwack trailer PU with no issues. No addl costs for app or updates.
I think you need cell service for Maps to work. I think you can save maps to make it work, but you have to do some special saving. Not so good in the boonies. Have not tried it.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:24 AM   #17
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I don't know for sure, if you need cell, it worked the whole way up n back and we were on 93 in Eastern NV for quite a bit which doesn't get much Boonier den dat. Maybe someone has a more definitive answer, but I would think it runs off of embedded gps and satellite like any of the devices.
I did find this fairly recent article on maps that is interesting:
http://www.outsideonline.com/2038406...ely-seamlessly
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:29 AM   #18
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When I was at the Quartzsite rally everytime I mentioned WAZE to people (a couple of times) the people consistently had not heard of WAZE

It is free, and runs on smartphones.

We really like WAZE as it routes you around traffic..... and also gives you all sorts of user supplied info (verbally... it talks to you) such as "object on road ahead" or "car parked on shoulder ahead"

In areas on no cell service it does what all smart phones do.... relies on GPS tracking to know where you are.

Highly recommended.

here is an older but informative article about WAZE

Everything You Need to Know About Waze

One really doesnt need to do ANYTHING to use WAZE. You do not have to log in, or create an account, or anything. You can just start using it. Free

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John,

I tried WAZE on a recent trip and had to shut it off. Mostly I think it was because I hadn't spent the time to learn the app, but it seemed more concerned with telling me where other WAZE members were. Since we were on I-10 heading to LA it kept chirping away about WAZE members so I canned it and went back to maps. I hear a number of people that recommend it so I probably need to spend more time with it and find out how to can the other WAZE people function.
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(snip) One really doesn't need to do ANYTHING to use WAZE.
Well, I would! I'd have to purchase a smartphone and pay the monthly bills! Which we're not in any great rush to do. I hardly ever use my cell phone. Heck, half the time it's run out of battery power after sitting in my purse unused for days on end. We still have clamshell, flip phones and pay $100 a year for a 1000 minutes, which hardly ever get used up.

Yeah, we're part of the one third or less of phone owners that don't have a smartphone.
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