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Old 10-26-2015, 04:10 PM   #11
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Old 10-26-2015, 04:16 PM   #12
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Thank you all for your your responses. We are not planning on being too aggressive with the cold weather issues but are just not ready to shut down for the winter. We have insulated tanks, solar, heat pads, extra insulation, double windows and will look into the heated water hose. So far our plans will take us to -10C at night with + 7-10 daytime.
As a new escape owner, your comments and ideas are appreciated.
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Ken, your Escape is well equipped to try being out in the cold. The heated hoses are indeed pricey and be advised that they apparently have only one to six feet of length for the electric hookup part. Invariably people use an extension cord. The warranty may then be voided. So you might consider that. Don't know if you have a plug-in right near your water.

There are real cold extended-time campers who use no water and have various solutions. Then there are full-timers who would not be without water and they have their ideas. The solutions vary greatly with the kind of unit and the owners' home-made answers to them but there are ways to stay out there with and without use of the water system.

I can only recall one person with an Escape staying out in winter for an extended period using the water. I do not know if he would say that it was a successful use since he had big problems with dumping. Don't know if he will overcome that.

Please let us know what you did and how it goes!
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Old 10-26-2015, 04:25 PM   #13
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Oh my, -10, -20 Sounds like the Rocky training scenes in Siberia.

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Old 10-26-2015, 04:58 PM   #14
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FC, that was probably us. The issue is that even though the tanks are insulated and in some cases heated, the 3" diameter discharge pipe leading to the gate valves is insulated but not heated. Consequently, even with 100% pink stuff, it will eventually become a thick slurry that will not flow, making dumping impossible until the whole structure is heated up. Fully capable winter trailers like the Big Foot and Artic Fox, this sturcture, including the dump valves are contained in the heated space.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:55 PM   #15
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FC, that was probably us. The issue is that even though the tanks are insulated and in some cases heated, the 3" diameter discharge pipe leading to the gate valves is insulated but not heated. Consequently, even with 100% pink stuff, it will eventually become a thick slurry that will not flow, making dumping impossible until the whole structure is heated up. Fully capable winter trailers like the Big Foot and Artic Fox, this sturcture, including the dump valves are contained in the heated space.
So what did you do? Could a hair dryer warm it up or is it too hard of an area to get to? People place light bulbs in such areas sometimes. Is that possible to prevent the problem? Or is this an area where hard foam pieces could be taped for more insulation? I am supposing that yours is not the same as ours. See photo for partial view.

I was wondering about pouring hot water down the toilet and whether that would do anything and how hot the water can be. Wonder how much heat the black tank can take. But it would be better to have a preventative.
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Old 10-26-2015, 06:04 PM   #16
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We paid an auto detailer 100 bucks to keep our trailer in a space heated to 55 degrees for three days over a long weekend. Doubt that hot water would help as I can't imagine that the heat from hot water in the tank could migrate through all three feet of pipe to to the gate valve. Really like your quote btw.
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Old 10-26-2015, 07:42 PM   #17
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Fortunately with the 19' and the 5.0TA, the black water tank sits right above the gate/valve. Doesn't have a 3' run like some other models.
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Heated discharge lines

Someone on the forum bought 12 volt heat trace and had ETI install on discharge lines before foam. ETI didn't hook up, but ran wires into the trailer. If I had it to do again, I would do this.
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Old 10-27-2015, 07:18 AM   #19
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Fortunately with the 19' and the 5.0TA, the black water tank sits right above the gate/valve. Doesn't have a 3' run like some other models.
Jealous. I wonder if Escape, as an option, would be willing to install a second gate valve right under the black tanks on the 17 such that the offending 3' pipe would remain empty during use and most all liquid remains in the heated, insulated space. To dump you would open the primary dump valve, then the valve below the black tank. This solution dosen't help the gray water tank but it is easier to get along without that in winter. You sure about the 19? We saw one in Utah a month ago and I thought it had the offending pipe. Perhaps the 5.0 and the 21?
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Old 10-27-2015, 07:21 AM   #20
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Someone on the forum bought 12 volt heat trace and had ETI install on discharge lines before foam. ETI didn't hook up, but ran wires into the trailer. If I had it to do again, I would do this.
Me too. Wonder if the 160 watt solar panel and dual 6v could manage it.
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