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06-22-2014, 11:32 AM
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Anyway, here's the latest build sheet:
Model 17B
2 Burner Stainless Steel Stove & Range hood – install front to back
4.3 cu ft Fridge
Air Conditioner (11,000 BTU)
12V Battery (flip flopped on this one but will go with the 12v)
Dual Propane Package
Equalizer Hitch
2 - Way Hot Water Tank
Microwave (Built-In)
Opening Window in Bathroom
Storage Box
Stainless Steel Sink & Chrome Faucet
Prewire for Stereo
Thermal Windows & Extra Insulation (Windows too because of condensation and sound)
TV Antenna with power amplifier (Includes TV Ready with 120V)
Prewire Solar Panel
Water Filter
“Texas Fan” for Fridge
Digital Thermostat
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06-22-2014, 11:39 AM
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Take your time, you have a long way to go before you need to submit your build sheet. If you keep reading the forum it'll change, many times.
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06-22-2014, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cypherian
You might prevent early failure of your water heater and or mineral building up on the shower head and other pieces. if all water is filtered.
Cypher
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Filtering all of it would also reduce the amount of undesirable material accumulating in the fresh water tank. I have used a "whole house" style of filter (just a normal unit purchased from Home Depot) in-line in the supply hose, but I don't bother where I know the water is good.
On the other hand, I wouldn't expect such a filter to remove dissolved minerals.
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06-22-2014, 12:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Antelope, California
Trailer: 2009 17B "Suite Escape" pulled by a 2020 Toyota Sienna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Anyway, here's the latest build sheet:
Model 17B
2 Burner Stainless Steel Stove & Range hood – install front to back
4.3 cu ft Fridge
Air Conditioner (11,000 BTU)
12V Battery (flip flopped on this one but will go with the 12v)
Dual Propane Package
Equalizer Hitch
2 - Way Hot Water Tank
Microwave (Built-In)
Opening Window in Bathroom
Storage Box
Stainless Steel Sink & Chrome Faucet
Prewire for Stereo
Thermal Windows & Extra Insulation (Windows too because of condensation and sound)
TV Antenna with power amplifier (Includes TV Ready with 120V)
Prewire Solar Panel
Water Filter
“Texas Fan” for Fridge
Digital Thermostat
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One thing I've found handy (but this is from pre-storage box days) is an exterior hatch on the passenger side in back under the large dinette. Welcome and have fun!
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06-22-2014, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra L
One thing I've found handy (but this is from pre-storage box days) is an exterior hatch on the passenger side in back under the large dinette. Welcome and have fun!
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I had my hatch ( pre-storage box ) installed at the front, passenger side. So, to use it, you have to remove the rock protectors, so you probably leave the rock protectors off.
And, since the dinette at the back is probably left set up as a bed, it's much harder to access than under the front bench.
If I could do it again, my hatch would be at the back ( assuming the awning arms don't get in the way ).
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06-22-2014, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
Take your time, you have a long way to go before you need to submit your build sheet. If you keep reading the forum it'll change, many times.
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I added revision number to the file name for my build sheets - I wound up with 11 revisions in 3 weeks............
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06-22-2014, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra L
One thing I've found handy (but this is from pre-storage box days) is an exterior hatch on the passenger side in back under the large dinette. Welcome and have fun!
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I'll second (or third) this recommendation. When we had our 17B, I was able to store all out "outside" gear - patio mat, lego blocks, water hoses, charcoal chimney, broom & a bunch of other small stuff in that space. It looked like I was unloading a clown car when I set up .
This might work instead of the front storage box for you, especially if you need to be concerned with tongue weight with your MKX.
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2013 Escape 21 & 2014 Chevy Silverado - sold
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06-22-2014, 03:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
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Ever have water seepage from having an exterior hatch?
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06-22-2014, 04:04 PM
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Have had some, but I think not while the trailer is parked. Not enough to concern myself about. But, if I put the rock guard back...
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06-22-2014, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Asheville, North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Filtering all of it would also reduce the amount of undesirable material accumulating in the fresh water tank. I have used a "whole house" style of filter (just a normal unit purchased from Home Depot) in-line in the supply hose, but I don't bother where I know the water is good.
On the other hand, I wouldn't expect such a filter to remove dissolved minerals.
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Thanks for the great advice. Being new to having a trailer there is so much to learn. Do you also filter when filling your fresh water tank?
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06-22-2014, 09:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Antelope, California
Trailer: 2009 17B "Suite Escape" pulled by a 2020 Toyota Sienna
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I had my hatch ( pre-storage box ) installed at the front, passenger side. So, to use it, you have to remove the rock protectors, so you probably leave the rock protectors off.
And, since the dinette at the back is probably left set up as a bed, it's much harder to access than under the front bench.
If I could do it again, my hatch would be at the back ( assuming the awning arms don't get in the way ).
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I also got two hatches in the front, under the rock guards. I just unsnap the tops to get to the interiors, and let them stay attached to the bottoms, otherwise, I'd probably lose them. I keep my hitch stuff, chocks, and stabilizer pads in one and extra sewer stuff in the other. The added plus is that when they are buttoned up, one cannot tell there is a hatch behind them. The awning arm does not get in the way of the one in the back. I also have never had a leak.
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06-22-2014, 10:00 PM
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kstock11
Do you also filter when filling your fresh water tank?
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Yes, I have once or twice... same logic whether in a serviced site or filling the tank.
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06-23-2014, 06:29 AM
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Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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If I fill from my normal home drinking water source, no. If from other unknown source, yes
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06-23-2014, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Battle Ground, Washington
Trailer: 2001 Bigfoot 21RB/ 73Boler/Trillium 5500
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rbryan4 you made a better choice in your trailer search. ETI customer service is tops in the industry.
Chuck
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06-23-2014, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 -- The Skylark. Towed by a 2014 Highlander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If I fill from my normal home drinking water source, no. If from other unknown source, yes
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I follow Jim's practice here
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06-23-2014, 02:09 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulw
I'll second (or third) this recommendation. When we had our 17B, I was able to store all out "outside" gear - patio mat, lego blocks, water hoses, charcoal chimney, broom & a bunch of other small stuff in that space. It looked like I was unloading a clown car when I set up .
This might work instead of the front storage box for you, especially if you need to be concerned with tongue weight with your MKX.
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Good point about the tongue weight. The tongue weight capacity for my Lincoln is 350 lbs, which is about 100 lbs higher than the tongue weight of the 17B. Even with the storage box, I don't see it getting maxed out. The main reason we wanted the storage box was not only to store the setup items like chocks, etc, but to store a screen room we can set up separately, rather than have one attached to the awning/trailer. I have learned from alot of people that there's no such thing as too much storage space!
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06-23-2014, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Marysville, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Good point about the tongue weight. The tongue weight capacity for my Lincoln is 350 lbs, which is about 100 lbs higher than the tongue weight of the 17B. Even with the storage box, I don't see it getting maxed out. The main reason we wanted the storage box was not only to store the setup items like chocks, etc, but to store a screen room we can set up separately, rather than have one attached to the awning/trailer. I have learned from alot of people that there's no such thing as too much storage space.
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I absolutely agree about never too much storage , but sometimes our tugs dictate where we put the load.
Here is a thread you should probably check out while you're planning. It lists the real world weights of various molded fiberglass trailers as loaded for a trip:
Trailer Weights in the Real World - Fiberglass RV
Its a long thread, so here is an extract with entries for the Escape 17Bs that were weighed. Mine's on there twice - lines 5 and 6 - they never seem to get lighter .
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06-23-2014, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
The tongue weight capacity for my Lincoln is 350 lbs, which is about 100 lbs higher than the tongue weight of the 17B. Even with the storage box, I don't see it getting maxed out.
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250 pounds is the published dry/empty/base tongue weight for an Escape 17. Stuff anywhere ahead of the axle will increase that (and stuff behind it will decrease the tongue weight), so a loaded trailer will typically have more than 250 pounds carried by the hitch even if there is no storage box on the tongue. Also, the published weight will be without propane, and that sits almost on top of the coupler, adding close to 40 pounds by itself (if the empty tanks are included in the published weight).
For example, my similar 17-foot trailer has about (from memory) 240 pounds on the tongue when empty, and 305 pounds loaded for travel... with no storage box on the tongue.
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06-23-2014, 09:20 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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My 17B has dual propane, no storage box, battery on the rear bumper, with a storage box on a cargo carrier in the bike receiver. I generally run 320 - 340# tongue weight.
I move cargo ( cases of beer ) forward or aft inside the trailer to adjust. Generally, I try to keep weight over the axle.
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06-23-2014, 09:49 PM
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Light tongue weight on any Escape? Put more BEER behind the axle!
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