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Old 10-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #11
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Standard items in all the models will include a power awning and the newer style door which allows the newer style refrigerator. A medicine cabinet is now standard in most bathrooms. Options are varied and different but these basic changes have been made for 2016 and forward.
These changes apply to trailers of the new design, which started production in 2016. Trailers of the old design do not have these changes, no matter how late they are built; there are still old-design (or "classic") trailers in production now.
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Old 10-14-2016, 06:23 PM   #12
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I have seen a number of threads mention that the 19 foot is updated for 2017. Can someone explain what is changing, the escape website does not make any mention of this. Do the older ones still have the real queen sized bed?
I am starting looking around for a 19 and want to understand the differences. I am considering both new and used, and plan on making a factory visit sometime in the next few months.
Yes, classics and new 19's have the queen bed. Used 19's have differences in tank size and a few more minor features and a seller may not even know that. Some sales are incorrectly labeled because the seller looks at the current list which is not always what they have. Hard to know some things if they do not know the specifics of their own trailer, but most features you can see.

The new obvious difference for your use is the awning which is electric and has no side arms now. There is also a real screen door and the door shape has changed.

You can likely save many thousands getting a used one and the differences as far as your use would be minimal, so it is a good idea to go looking for used. Some people have unusual customizations and that would be one reason for paying much more for new.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:26 PM   #13
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...You can likely save many thousands getting a used one and the differences as far as your use would be minimal, so it is a good idea to go looking for used. Some people have unusual customizations and that would be one reason for paying much more for new.
Based on the prices that are popping up these days for used Escapes, many of them being advertised for close to their original purchase price, there is little price advantage to buying used. Biggest advantage of buying used right now seems to be that you can avoid the long wait for a new purchase.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:26 PM   #14
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Major changes I can think of are.

Awning
Tank sizes
Door and screen door
Refrigerator
4" wider frame
Awning style frameless windows are available
Sides on new model are flat, old model has a mold line down the side and sides and door are more rounded
Marker lights
Type of Insulation is different
Medicine cabinet
Stripper pole :-)
Price

Floor plan is the same
Basically the same options were available for both except the frameless windows.
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:24 PM   #15
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:57 PM   #16
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I know a new trailer will be the new design, but I am also looking at used options and would love a simple list of changes to help my decision.
I think the best way to get a list of the changes would be to contact Escape. I haven't seen a complete list, although some of the posts above do a pretty good job of listing the major ones.

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I think the best way to get a list of the changes would be to contact Escape. I haven't seen a complete list...
...and I'm pretty sure no such thing exists, even from ETI, as I believe this subject has been dealt with before on this forum. It was determined to be a monumental task given both major and minor changes over the life of this company's production. One sees the difference in model years frequently mentioned even with such trivial things as window coverings, pump models, etc.
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:24 PM   #18
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I forgot the faucet and the molded in shelf in the bathroom. I think the bathroom sick is the same in the current classic from some of the post I have see.
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Given how few used Escapes are on the market, I don't think one gets to be picky.
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Old 10-14-2016, 10:11 PM   #20
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I think the best way to get a list of the changes would be to contact Escape. I haven't seen a complete list, although some of the posts above do a pretty good job of listing the major ones.
While they might not have a complete list they likely have a brochure for the model year you may be looking at. When we were moving forward on the purchase of a 2010 19' Tammy sent me a brochure of the proper vintage. Most of the standard features were the same as those listed on the website in early 2016, but you could pick up the differences. Slightly smaller holding tanks, 14" tires vs 15", 2300 lb axles versus 2500 lb., manual bathroom vent vs power exhauster, and thinner 5" mattress vs 8" are most of them. No deal breakers and honestly if you wait too long comparing every little thing someone else will likely have bought it. Some options have been added over the years as Escape continually improves the amenities available in their trailers. For example the front storage box was not available until late 2010 so the earliest 19's won't have it unless it was retrofitted later by ETI. Also if you have the original owner's last name or the trailer VIN Tammy can also send you the original build sheet for a trailer you may be looking to purchase.
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