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Old 05-01-2016, 06:47 PM   #1
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Question 8 ? about 2017 21’ pole, valances, jacket hooks, 120v outlet by stove, side tables

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8 ? about 2017 21’ pole, valances, jacket hooks, 120v outlet by the stove, pop up tables.

I have been pouring over the build sheet, and reading many It’s Friday posts, and looking at dozens of It’s Friday photos.

We will be getting a 2107 21’. It is ordered.
We will NOT be getting the U-shaped dinette.

Yes I know that mid May 2016 interior photos of the 2017 19’ will be released, and from that I can extrapolate much of how the 2017 21’ interior will look. :-)


A few more questions for all the wise 21’ owners out there.

1) why is there a chrome pole by the sink on the 21’?
I assume it is a “hand grab” for entry into the Escape 21’?

2) Is it structural?

3) can it be omitted without negative consequence?

4) I’m not a fan of having dinette fabric pattern on the window valances.
We will get the frameless thermal windows all around.
Does anyone know what color the interior frame metal will be ? Black?
If so… I assume I could provide black fabric for the window valances?

5) Has anyone done “ black fabric for the window valances” and how does it look? Any downsides?

6) I think we’ll not get the optional cubbies just outside the bathroom door, but instead put Umbra hooks at about 6’ high, and mother Umbra hook about 3’ high… and use those for hanging jackets / headlamps / hats.
Has anyone done this, and how well does that work out?
Note - my wife and I do NOT want to hang that stuff in the bed area at all.

7) In the kitchen we’ll leave the stock 120v outlet where it is, but would like to add another (in a similar place to that) but as far aft as possible, so in other words just below the 2 stove burners. (with the stove turned sideways, to gain more counter space)
We’ll keep a wooden cutting board (with short legs) over the stove, and will keep coffee grinder & blender in that area.
Has anyone put a 120v outlet there? Is there clearance between cabinet upper face and stove top guts?

8) We will not get the U shaped dinette, and we’ll have ETI install a hybrid Springfield pedestal / Dicor slide combo. :-)
We want to add a pop up side table in the dinette area -either just aft of the stove, or aft of the fridge.

I’m a little concerned about clearance for using the dinette when these pop up side tables are in the down position…. in terms of getting in and out of the dinette. I know they eat up only a few inches when down….. but….. I’m wider than I once was. ;-)

Should I be Ok with the hybrid Springfield pedestal / Dicor slide combo to just slide the table a bit to passenger side or driver side to get enough space to slide into the bench?

thanks!
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:53 PM   #2
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Window Frames

In my photo heavy post I did about seeing the inside and outside of the raw 2017 19' trailer, you can see that the inside window frame is black. I've attached one of those photos here.

Here's the thread's link in case you missed seeing it:

Lots of photos of the NEW 2017 19' Trailer
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:57 PM   #3
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In my photo heavy post I did about seeing the inside and outside of the raw 2017 19' trailer, you can see that the inside window frame is black. I've attached one of those photos here.

Here's the thread's link in case you missed seeing it:

Lots of photos of the NEW 2017 19' Trailer
Thanks so much..... that is an awesome thread you posted.

and thanks for the reminder that the 2017 thermal inside frames are black.

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Old 05-01-2016, 07:59 PM   #4
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The pole is structural and cannot be omitted and is not a hand grab. Doubt they would recommend using it as a hand grab. I would not. We have added an extra handle inside the door, opposite side from the exterior one.

You will have to ask ETI about exact placement of electrical outlets to see whether they will do that placement.
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We used a black vinyl type fabric for our cushions and the valances.
I have a lot of photos of the interior before the valances were installed but unfortunately non afterwards.
I assume that the frames (only frame-less in name as the glass covers the frame on the outside) are black on the inside. NW Cat Owner posted pictures of the inside of an unfinished 17 which showed the windows from the inside without the vinyl liner installed.

We really like the look of the black valances and it does go good with the black window frames.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:09 PM   #6
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Window Valences

I also forgot to mention that I've seen photos of the valences done in different colors than dinette fabric. I think they were both custom ordered fabric, but I don't see why you couldn't keep their standard (if you like it; who knows if it's changing) and add your own choice of fabric for the valences. You'd have to ask ETI how much would be needed and what the additional cost would be. I can't remember if the build sheet mentions the yardage needed for the valences or I got it in an email from them. I just remember seeing it once, but forgot about it since I didn't need to retain that bit of information.
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2) Is it structural?

3) can it be omitted without negative consequence?

8) We will not get the U shaped dinette, and we’ll have ETI install a hybrid Springfield pedestal / Dicor slide combo. :-)
We want to add a pop up side table in the dinette area -either just aft of the stove, or aft of the fridge.
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Yes

No

Did Escape say they would install this pedestal slide combo? Seeing you need to customize the pedestal, I would be surprised if they would. You could always ask, or just have them build the top and do the install yourself.
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Yes

No

Did Escape say they would install this pedestal slide combo? Seeing you need to customize the pedestal, I would be surprised if they would. You could always ask, or just have them build the top and do the install yourself.
No.

However ...

I was going to do the mod myself then supply it as "ready to install"

It is my understanding that they will install a pedestal.

I would trust them far more than I trust myself.

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I know that I have seen it said on the forum that ETI installed their springfield pedestal. And I believe they said it was done at their delivery and orientation.
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Escape will install the pedestal. But, it's a really easy install if you want to do it after the fact.


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