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Old 07-13-2015, 11:12 AM   #41
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It is so upsetting (not really) that the FJ has a the same engine as the Tacoma (239hp) has a 3.73 axle ratio, the wheelbase is only 15" shorter than the Tacoma, has a frame, and torque of 278 lbs and yet can tow 1400 lbs less. I smell something fishy in the state of Denmark! I think it could tow just as well with a couple of airbags in the rear, but somewhere at the 43 floor of a building in a Mega City, some lawyer and bean counter thought that because SUV's are for soccer moms and trucks are for burly fisherman, they'd just assign a lower weight and no one would care. Oh yes, and in case you are wondering, I believe in little green men!
I was always curious as to why the Highlander has a 5000 lb tow capacity vs. the 3500 lb tow capacity of the sienna, inspite of the fact that they have the same engine, same transmission, same rear end. It could be because the sienna has a softer suspension, or maybe the highlander has larger brakes. But I tend towards your theory of soccer moms and he-men not wanting to be caught dead in a mini-van. The existence of a 3rd row seat in the midsize SUVs also makes me think they are marketed as a "minivan that isn't a minivan"...
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:23 AM   #42
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Ok, I just talked to my local Toyota Dealer, which has a pretty good reputation in the area for being honest and doing right by the customer (I say this because so many places I've read hold them in about the same esteem as a congressperson) and the gent said that as long as the trailer was "close" to 5000lbs it would be fine, as Toyota puts a certain fudge factor in there. He said even 400-500lbs over would be acceptable, although at high speeds or climbing mountains it might have to work harder.

I was pretty clear that the weight of the trailer and the stuff inside would be pretty darn close to the 5000lb and asked if there would be any safety concerns or additional wear on the engine. "no, because that's the tolerance Toyota builds into the vehicle. Anything more, and it could put a strain on the engine".

So now, following my rollercoaster of emotions, my thinking is that if I add air bags to stiffen up the back end, and have the Anderson hitch, and prudently drive (I'm not a lead foot anyway, but don't see the need of limiting the speed to below the speed limit) I just might be able to get it back to Maine from BC and will also be able to assess the tow ability of the trailer with the FJ. Plus, after that epic road trip, we will be broke for a while and might just driveway camp!
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Has anyone ever towed an Escape 19 with a Toyota Sienna with a 3500lb towing capacity? If so, how'd it work out?
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:08 PM   #46
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Of course if you really want to be sure your tow vehicle will work, you might consider this
Hey Leon, this might amuse you:
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Old 07-13-2015, 07:39 PM   #47
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Hi: dbailey... Years ago my brother used to build those!!! I wonder if it will fit under the 5.0TA?
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Alf, I'm sure it would fit under the 5.0TA. Not sure the 5.0's wheels would be on the ground, though...
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Has anyone ever towed an Escape 19 with a Toyota Sienna with a 3500lb towing capacity? If so, how'd it work out?
I'm not aware of anyone and if they did they did not want to talk about it....the 19 is too big for a 3500# rated vehicle.
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Old 07-13-2015, 08:17 PM   #50
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Hey Leon, this might amuse you:
I am highly amused -- and interesting that Alf's brother used to build them. Small world, eh?
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