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12-09-2017, 10:50 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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I say they are skipping the 23' and going right to the 25'.
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12-10-2017, 02:05 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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For those dreaming of an Escape 23', I'll note that a FiberglassRV member sectioned (laterally) and stretched two trailers: I'm not suggesting that this is worthwhile... just possible. It's even possible to choose body width by choosing the starting model, stretching more if starting with a shorter model.
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12-10-2017, 07:13 PM
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#43
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
For those dreaming of an Escape 23'....
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I am dreaming of an Escape 23 Brian, but only if Reace builds it, and only if the bed isn't right in front of you as you enter. Trailer construction is not for me.
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12-10-2017, 09:03 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
Posts: 1,765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I'm probably the only forum member here that can answer that question correctly as I went from a 19 to a 21 and back to a 19 all with the same type tow vehicle. ...
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Jim, I think I recall, back when you made the decision to go back to the 19', you mentioned something along the line that the 21' had too much storage space that you filled with stuff you never used, and that you were tired of hauling so much stuff (and associated weight) around, and that the more limited storage space on the 19' would help you reduce that. So, do you find yourself carrying less stuff (and carrying less weight) now that you're back in the 19'? And if so, might that factor into any changes in fuel efficiency, too?
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12-11-2017, 04:28 AM
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I have definitely shed some weight, I used to carry wooden table and chairs, switched to aluminum, ditched my cast iron cookware, only 1 television, and less tools and clothes. Maybe 2-300# lbs loss? I still need to get weighed.
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01-12-2018, 07:00 PM
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#46
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21'
Posts: 29
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That would be my dream Escape - 21' with 19' beds
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01-12-2018, 09:03 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 2,716
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If the 21 had the same floor plan as the 19 but with the addition of a 2 ft low cabinet between the washroom and dinette on the drivers side and more counter space on the passenger side...we would have popped for that.
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01-13-2018, 07:50 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: West Coast, Florida
Trailer: None now
Posts: 1,266
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
If the 21 had the same floor plan as the 19 but with the addition of a 2 ft low cabinet between the washroom and dinette on the drivers side and more counter space on the passenger side...we would have popped for that.
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As would we. We like the floor plan of the 19 but having additional counter and storage space a slightly bigger wetbath and a wider closet and more drawers underneath the closet would have sealed the deal for a 19 based 21.
Since the 19 came the closest for being what we like we purchased it. And are safe as long as Escape does not decided to make the existing 19 a into a 21QB. If they do we might have to spend more of my daughters inheritance.
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01-13-2018, 08:07 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
If the 21 had the same floor plan as the 19 but with the addition of a 2 ft low cabinet between the washroom and dinette on the drivers side and more counter space on the passenger side...we would have popped for that.
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This has been said many a time before, and if Escape actually did it, I would have considered it over the 5.0TA. I bet Escape would see the sales of the 19 drop a fair bit with many folks opting for the slightly longer trailer.
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01-13-2018, 08:09 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wetzk
As would we. We like the floor plan of the 19 but having additional counter and storage space a slightly bigger wetbath and a wider closet and more drawers underneath the closet would have sealed the deal for a 19 based 21.
Since the 19 came the closest for being what we like we purchased it. And are safe as long as Escape does not decided to make the existing 19 a into a 21QB. If they do we might have to spend more of my daughters inheritance.
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All your reasoning is good, except I like the smaller bath in the 19 and 5.0TA, as I know that space is going to better use elsewhere. :
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01-13-2018, 08:20 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
This has been said many a time before, and if Escape actually did it, I would have considered it over the 5.0TA. I bet Escape would see the sales of the 19 drop a fair bit with many folks opting for the slightly longer trailer.
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True, but they would probably stop making the 19 similarly to the classic 5.0. Then they may redesign the 17 on a 19 chassis with 2 beds or dinettes. then they could bring back the 15 on a 17 chassis!!!!
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01-13-2018, 10:35 AM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Monona, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2023 21NE "Hardley II" 2021 Toyota Tacoma (Diesel Jeep stranded us twice so it had to go)
Posts: 341
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Our 19 clears the top of our garage door by about 1/8 of an inch. I think the 21 is only an inch taller, but it's one inch to much for us. It probably wouldn't be a problem for most folks but it made our decision easy.
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01-13-2018, 10:37 AM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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So what is the magic height number for the garage door?
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01-13-2018, 11:12 AM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Monona, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2023 21NE "Hardley II" 2021 Toyota Tacoma (Diesel Jeep stranded us twice so it had to go)
Posts: 341
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
So what is the magic height number for the garage door?
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Our door opening is dead on 9 feet with a flat approach. It's as high as we could go without major structural changes. I should clarify that it's the air conditioner that make it close, the 21 without air conditioning would fit.
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01-13-2018, 12:09 PM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Around here most doors are 7-8', so a 9' door would be hard to find.
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01-13-2018, 12:32 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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Nope if opening is high enough you just add panels and railing. Been there done that ughhh
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01-13-2018, 12:38 PM
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#57
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Around here most doors are 7-8', so a 9' door would be hard to find.
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True. You kind of have to have it purpose built, and modification is difficult. The RV garage we are building along with our new home will have 10 foot doors.
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01-13-2018, 12:59 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Around here most doors are 7-8', so a 9' door would be hard to find.
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While not the case with all overhead doors, such as in fancy ones, you can get them in 1' increments in width (up to about 21') and 6" increments in height.
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01-13-2018, 01:12 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Most of the homes in my neighborhood were built pre WWII when cars were smaller, my doors are 7' tall and wide, I have to retract my truck mirrors entering. A post war home may have a 8' door standard but anything bigger would have to be custom built, like rbryan4 mentions.
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01-13-2018, 01:50 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Yes, the doors I spoke of are not for existing openings, just saying what can be designed for.
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