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Old 08-23-2014, 09:34 PM   #1
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Build sheet - one week until due date!

Ok all... we've been officially lurking on this forum for a few months, trying to read everything we could to guide our decision-making process. Our final build sheet is due 9/1, and we figured we should get any last minute advice/opinions from the pros. So, here it is:

19' Escape (name TBD)

2 way hot water tank
3 burner stainless steel stove and range hood
6.7 cuft refrigerator with Texas fan
2 additional 12V interior outlets
Additional window (non-opening) over sink
Air conditioner
Digital thermostat
4 aluminum rims (question: should we add a 5th to the spare?)
Cabinet door at end of dinette bench
Cot (we have kids)
Extra drawer under wardrobe
Dual 6V batteries
Equalizer Hitch/Anderson Hitch (have not decided on this one yet)
Exterior shower
Exterior propane quick connect
Extra insulation and thermal windows
Storage box
LED interior light package
LED exterior lights plus additional light over storage box
4 captains reading lamps (2 in bed area, 2 in dinette area)
Opening window in bathroom
Removable power cord
2 shelves in wardrobe closet
Stainless steel sink and chrome faucet
Stove cover
Starter kit
Surge protector
160W solar panel with charge controller
Spray foam insulation under trailer (question: should we add heat pads?)
Water filter
Custom formica (still wavering on final choice)
Custom fabric (Sunbrella Dupione Deep Sea)
Convert dinette to u-shape
Bike rack ready
Graphic color TBD

Please let us know any thoughts you may have or things we have overlooked based on your experiences.

Thanks so much!
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Old 08-23-2014, 09:46 PM   #2
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Regarding heat pads.

I'm planning to do a fair amount of below freezing camping and the problem of keeping the liquid in a liquid state has been a source of much concern.

My thinking on the 12v pads is No, for a couple of reasons. One: I suspect (just a guess) that each pad will need around 100W of power and that is a lot to pull from a battery if not hooked up to 110. And we expect to not be hooked to utilities very often. Second: I'm thinking that the only tank in danger of freezing is the fresh water. It will be easy to add a gallon or two of RV antifreeze to the grey and black tanks on an "as needed" basis, which should at least keep the contents in a slushy state. And finally, I have a grand scheme (some would call it a mod) to send hot water directly from the water heater back into the fresh water tank on an as needed basis. Say, just before bed, pump the entire 6 gallons of 140*F water into the fresh tank. Should keep everything from freezing over night with the spray foam package.

I'll be glad to report back in a couple of years and let you know if it works!

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Old 08-23-2014, 09:48 PM   #3
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Hey,

I do not see a wall beef up for TV mount or TV Antennae rainy days stuck inside it might save some piece of mind. You may not need or want the Antennae but a wall beefed up allows you to mount a TV and hook a laptop to it for movies etc. I also do not see any stereo perhaps you do not need one but you may wish to have it prewired for possible future install. The heat pads would depend on when and where you camp. I would not go for the spare being Aluminum the cost does not out weigh the benefit IMHO. You may also wish to consider having 12 volt power and grounds dropped under the bed and in the cabinets for lights later. The door on the end of the bench near the door is handy for storing quick access set up stuff. I am sure there will be others popping in with their thoughts soon.

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Old 08-23-2014, 10:11 PM   #4
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My two cents in red:

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Originally Posted by JaimeA View Post
Ok all... we've been officially lurking on this forum for a few months, trying to read everything we could to guide our decision-making process. Our final build sheet is due 9/1, and we figured we should get any last minute advice/opinions from the pros. So, here it is:

19' Escape (name TBD)

2 way hot water tank -- yes
3 burner stainless steel stove and range hood -- I like the 2 burner for more counter space
6.7 cuft refrigerator with Texas fan -- large capacity is good
2 additional 12V interior outlets -- yes, at least 2
Additional window (non-opening) over sink -- OK
Air conditioner -- yes
Digital thermostat -- yes
4 aluminum rims (question: should we add a 5th to the spare?)-- yes, but not the spare
Cabinet door at end of dinette bench -- yes
Cot (we have kids)
Extra drawer under wardrobe -- yes
Dual 6V batteries -- definitely
Equalizer Hitch/Anderson Hitch (have not decided on this one yet) -- if needed, I prefer the equalizer hitch
Exterior shower -- not for me
Exterior propane quick connect -- yes
Extra insulation and thermal windows -- definite must have
Storage box -- yes
LED interior light package -- yes
LED exterior lights plus additional light over storage box -- yes
4 captains reading lamps (2 in bed area, 2 in dinette area) -- not a biggie for me
Opening window in bathroom -- yes
Removable power cord -- meh
2 shelves in wardrobe closet -- yes
Stainless steel sink and chrome faucet -- yes
Stove cover -- I prefer a cutting board/homemade cover
Starter kit -- ok
Surge protector -- definitely -- get a tester too
160W solar panel with charge controller -- yes
Spray foam insulation under trailer (question: should we add heat pads?) Only if you camp in very COLD areas
Water filter -- easily added later, or just use an inline on the hose
Custom formica (still wavering on final choice) - I like Colorado Slate or Crayon with your fabric choice
Custom fabric (Sunbrella Dupione Deep Sea) -- yes
Convert dinette to u-shape -- great option in the 19
Bike rack ready -- ok
Graphic color TBD

Please let us know any thoughts you may have or things we have overlooked based on your experiences.

Thanks so much!
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Old 08-23-2014, 10:11 PM   #5
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I don't see it, maybe I missed it, but you'll want the stooge table at the end of the kitchen counter (by the door). The 19' has a smallish counter and extra space for doing dishes, etc. is lovely!
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Old 08-23-2014, 10:16 PM   #6
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I don't see it, maybe I missed it, but you'll want the stooge table at the end of the kitchen counter (by the door). The 19' has a smallish counter and extra space for doing dishes, etc. is lovely!
I thought the pop up extension was standard on the 19. I haven't seen a photo of the 19 counter without it. Same for the 17.
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I thought the pop up extension was standard on the 19. I haven't seen a photo of the 19 counter without it. Same for the 17.
You're right: The 19 Foot Escape. I had to order it for Ten Forward...
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Old 08-23-2014, 11:13 PM   #8
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Is there a reason why you don't want the kitchen window to open? The one we have opens outward so we can leave it ajar if it rains. Also, I can talk through it to Terry when he is sitting outside the trailer and I'm in the kitchen.
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Old 08-23-2014, 11:40 PM   #9
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We have the heat pads and haven't used them yet - I think no need unless you winter camp with day temp well below freezing. I would go with the opening kitchen window - we like the air circulation, we don't have a window in the bathroom and haven't missed it, love the solar and dual 6v with an inverter 1500 watt.
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Old 08-24-2014, 01:41 AM   #10
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Re: kitchen window... We were thinking of going with non-opening because we didn't feel we would need the additional ventilation and we thought the unblocked view would be nice. However, we are not tied to that idea. It sounds like many have found it useful. There was an interesting thread on the topic with pictures of both the opening and non-opening. I'll see if I can find it and post the link here.
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