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Old 09-29-2015, 10:45 AM   #21
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In fact, the finer points of insulation and condensation is discussed in another current thread. Lots of good info, too. Boone is discussing it at length.

These two threads alone just saved me a lot of aftermarket $ in an errant purchase.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:18 AM   #22
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Insulation with thermal windows is an option, so many do not have that. You have guessed right though that it makes a difference for re-sale. Many prospective buyers are also looking for A/C even if they live in the north because they plan to travel in the south.
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Old 09-29-2015, 02:27 PM   #23
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True, Cathy!
So many options from which to choose...although the extra insulation, thermal windows, and A/c seem to be common themes nowadays for comfortable camping.
Thanks for your addition!
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:17 PM   #24
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Attached are some files I made back in 2005 through 2007 detailing the cost and availability of various standard and optional items on 2005, 2006 and 2007 Escape 17Bs and comparable Casita and Scamp trailers. The exchange rate at the time was used to figure the approximate cost in US$.

I used the 2005 and 2006 data to select my Escape. The 2007 data was added just for fun I guess as the standards and options had changed.

The "2005-2006 Escape and Casita & Scamp Trailer Spreadsheet" has some yellow cells, these are the cost of options I was interested in and were added to the Base Price to get the "TOTAL with options shown in Yellow" row. This will make more sense after you see the file.

I bought the Escape sight unseen and used the spreadsheets to compare various configurations and the other main fiberglass trailers.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:24 PM   #25
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You may notice a jump in the price of Escapes between 2005 and 2006. They switched to a dealership sales concept for a short time in 2006 and the price reflected the added middleman profit and expenses. They went back to factory direct in mid 2006 as the dealership option didn't work out. The price dropped back down when they went back to factory direct but the prices were as shown when I made file in early 2006.
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:25 AM   #26
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Our 2008 17B does not have a shower or sink but does have the toilet. Many I've talked to rarely use the shower in their units because of humidity and space. I suspect that the sink is just too small to be of much use, in particular with the very small space of the bathroom in the 17B.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:52 PM   #27
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Thumbs up Spreadsheet with great info

Thane...wow!
First off, A HUGE , huge thank you!
To share your extensive information is just so generous and kind. It's obvious you put so much time and thought into your research, and I really appreciate you taking the time to upload and share it!

I was in the process of doing something similar...seeing your methodology along with the facts and figures that you've accumulated has sped up my process. Very wise indeed!

It appears that you took great care into comparing "apples with apples" and adjusted where necessary.
I'm a very visual person, and seeing this amount of information located in one space really helps! You've made it much easier for me to make sense of all of this, and I appreciate it very much. I am sure it will help many more people who are shopping around too!

Now, I can just extend the spreadsheets to include bits of information as needed, depending on the year of trailer I'm considering.
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:03 PM   #28
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History helps...

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You may notice a jump in the price of Escapes between 2005 and 2006. They switched to a dealership sales concept for a short time in 2006 and the price reflected the added middleman profit and expenses. They went back to factory direct in mid 2006 as the dealership option didn't work out. The price dropped back down when they went back to factory direct but the prices were as shown when I made file in early 2006.
This is also a helpful bit of history that can help explain some price differences regarding resale. As I've researched, I did notice there were so many other factors besides options that were affecting pricing. Age, exchange rates, condition, and now I'll add this tidbit to the list.

So, what age and model did you end up buying? And why the Escape vs. the other brands?
In looking at your spreadsheets (which I must examine much more closely), is there anything on paper that really jumped out at you in helping your final decision?
Again, I think it's wonderful of you to share such time-intensive work and info... so much!
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:11 PM   #29
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Nuances of the water closet

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Our 2008 17B does not have a shower or sink but does have the toilet. Many I've talked to rarely use the shower in their units because of humidity and space. I suspect that the sink is just too small to be of much use, in particular with the very small space of the bathroom in the 17B.
Hi Buddy,
I hadn't realized that this was yet another possible configuration. It makes sense, however, from a space and humidity standpoint. Did you purposefully choose this option, or did you purchase used?
How does it work for you?
Would you change anything if you could at this point?
I just wonder if outdoor showering is a significant issue when camping in cooler seasons (when boondocking or if no community showers are available)?
Thanks for your comment!
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:15 PM   #30
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May have to reconsider my options. Again.

In reading the recent comments here, I'm now wondering if a dedicated bathroom space even warrants amount of room it takes up. I'll have to search the other threads of the merits of the 17 A versus the B now!
Sooooo, another column added to the spreadsheet!
Great info, everyone!
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