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Old 08-01-2018, 01:01 PM   #1
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Consolidating controls in one location

At the risk of getting no answers due to the side track another question has gone, I want to ask what you think out potentially consolidating all the electronic displays and controls in a single location instead of spread out all over, esp low in dinette seats.

I was thinking that the cabinet to the right of the door in the 5.0TA would be an ideal location for the controls as well as other electronics (sat receiver, XM radio, bluetooth converter, audio controls, etc). I realize this cabinet has other potential uses like a small closet like in my 40' 5th wheel, but exchanging some or even all of that utility for this purpose might be worthwhile to me.

The controls/displays would be consolidated, electronics stored away & centralized, and convenient for possibly putting a small subwoofer in a stair. A small circulation fan could be added if cooling was needed.

If you have considered this has ETI been amenable? If you have done it, as part of the build or as a personal mod, have you regretted it? Do you recommend an alternate location? Other considerations?
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I've not heard of anyone asking before, you'll be the first.
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Old 08-01-2018, 01:39 PM   #3
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Personally, I think this is an excellent idea. In past camper builds, as well as yacht builds, I have always consolidated controls (excluding sensors) to one location. A few issues that arise for the production builder are the extra costs associated with wiring, remote controls, and labor. The biggest issue is what the customer considers a central location. What I consider the best location may not be the same for the next customer.
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I intended to include this pic.

The top is what I have in my Aframe. Being a folding trailer they are on a board that I hang from a shelf that I set up when setting up the trailer.

The bottom is in my 40' 5th wheel, on the wall above the cabinet to the right of the door where the internal stairs go to the bedroom - very similar to my thought for the Escape.

Bogart battery monitor, solar controller remote, inverter remote, EMS remote, etc.
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If you look at the website for Escape, there are .pdf files showing standard locations. This will not be changed as ETI had expanded their production, some changes will not be made, such as locations in order to keep production levels up. After delivery one can do what they want....see here http://escapetrailer.com/wp-content/...ocations-1.pdf
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What I consider the best location may not be the same for the next customer.
Exactly. Thus one reason for asking for opinions/ideas.

Another possible location someone might consider would be the end of the kitchen cabinet, above or below the sink or even extending a hollow wall at that location between counter & upper cabinet instead of the stripper pole I keep seeing in pics; or even in the face of the upper step.
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At the risk of getting no answers due to the side track another question has gone, I want to ask what you think out potentially consolidating all the electronic displays and controls in a single location instead of spread out all over, esp low in dinette seats.

I think it is a great idea and I asked some questions in this direction for my 21'. For the solar controller the display is attached to the controller and I don't think you want to move that farther from the batteries so kind of stuck there unless you go with a different controller with a remote display. I asked about the "surge protector" (which has a separate display). They wouldn't remount it in my desired location, but they would leave it unmounted so I could put it where I wished.


Feel free to ask Escape questions again. Answers change over time as they adjust to various factors (different trailer, changing equipment...). YMMV.
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If you look at the website for Escape, there are .pdf files showing standard locations.
I've seen that file, which is why I know I want them consolidated. The only thing that "belongs" near the floor are those you don't need access to much, like propane detector, power center/converter & furnace output. With boondocking I refer to the displays fairly often to check battery, solar and even 120 power draw using or not using the generator.

If moving isn't possible then perhaps non-install & left under the bench with adequate wire coiled up would be done.
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Again, when Escape was building one unit a week they could make and did make some of display change locations. But now making 2 per day,they had to eliminate some changes and make standard locations for efficiency. I asked for changes on my 4th Escape and was told "no" for this reason. I understand and accepted that the schematic locations are now standard.
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... For the solar controller the display is attached to the controller and I don't think you want to move that farther from the batteries so kind of stuck there unless you go with a different controller with a remote display.
I have no problem with removing the mppt 40 amp controller & remote from the Aframe and reinstalling the original 20 amp pwm controller that I put in to begin with. I'd probably want the amp capacity anyway with the ETI panel (or 2?) on the roof and my 2 portable 100 watt panels.

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... I asked about the "surge protector" (which has a separate display). They wouldn't remount it in my desired location, but they would leave it unmounted so I could put it where I wished.
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That is what I'm expecting but it don't hurt to ask - here & with ETI. I'm anticipating some extra bulkhead ports as part of the build and a few additional holes in the floor inside cabinets, either via build or custom.
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