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Old 10-08-2013, 07:48 AM   #11
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Hi: Kountrykamper... ALARM CLOCKS!!! They're forbidden in "Our Escape Hatch". We do have room for a lot of "WHATEVER" though!!! Alf
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now you are talking retirement trash Alf, good for you...
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:04 AM   #12
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Hi: Kountrykamper... ALARM CLOCKS!!! They're forbidden in "Our Escape Hatch". We do have room for a lot of "WHATEVER" though!!! Alf
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I should have said its a clock with a alarm. Alarm part is not used but i get up several times a night and like to know what time it is. I can also keep my glasses on the table so I can see the clock.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:27 PM   #13
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Anyone have a photo of their extension on the 19'? We've opted not to include one there because I just couldn't imagine having something that you would be banging into all the time. However, if the extension is placed high enough, it might not be a problem. (We're having the television swing arm mounted on that wall so I was also concerned about too much "clutter" there.)
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:30 PM   #14
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You design that space yourself, you place it anywhere, or have them reinforce the wall and include it unmounted so you can place it exactly where you want it. The size is the size of the sink opening, that is where Escape gets these little shelves, from the cutting of the sink hole in your counter top.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:36 PM   #15
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Makes sense. Since we're having the wall reinforced anyway, might as well get the extension and mount it if we want. Thanks!!
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #16
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The size is the size of the sink opening, that is where Escape gets these little shelves, from the cutting of the sink hole in your counter top.
Maybe originally the extensions came from that cut-out, but I received a sink cover from that cut-out plus an additional extension at the end of the counter. I had another one made (much shallower) and placed just inside the door on the reinforced wall.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:17 PM   #17
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When I spoke with Tammy yesterday i'm pretty sure she said that we could definitely reinforce the walls in the 19 between the frig and the bed and between the stove and the bed -- it wouldn't interfere with wires. And I'm pretty sure she also said that if they install the shelf that there would be additional reinforcement for that . But best to check with her to be sure.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:54 PM   #18
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I have the U-shape seating at the rear of my 19 with the folding shelves mounted on both the fridge and the sink sides. I chose their mounting height to be the same height as the top of the counter (and the standard folding shelf at the doorway). Perfect height for snacks and an adult beverage when your lounging back there ;-)

Something to remember is that the folding shelves mounted at that height do somewhat interfere with the opening of the storage area covers under the side seating positions. In my case the tables have to be in the up position to open the covers at all and even then the side seat covers will only open about 45 degrees from their closed position.

In the case of the drivers side seat cover thats not much of a problem because the hot water tank and fresh water pump occupy most of that space. I had no problem accessing the suction side of the water pump to temporarily change the pipe connection to draw the winterizing antifreeze into the trailer plumbing.

Over on the passenger side the storage area is wide open underneath the cover and also accessible from the exterior hatch on that side. Bulky Items that can't get past the now smaller interior side hatch opening (or exterior hatch) can still be loaded into the un-compromised rear interior hatch and then slid around to the side.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:33 PM   #19
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Good catch, Robert. I'm having the "U" dinette also with dual lift up tables. I just sent an email re: my build sheet to have my dinette seat bottom modified to account for the table while in closed, down position.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:00 PM   #20
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I have the U-shape seating at the rear of my 19 with the folding shelves mounted on both the fridge and the sink sides.

Hi Robert - Since you switched the dinette and the bed around (I'm assuming), how do you find the size of the new bed? From the dimensions on the Escape pages, it looks like making the front dinette your bed reduces the width of the bed to about 14" narrower than the double bed on the 21' (i.e., 40"x80" vs. 54"x80").
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