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Old 09-06-2013, 08:04 PM   #71
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Mine stayed up for a full week even in a downpour and they didn't slide around at all. (These are mechanical suction devices, not the "spit" kind.) They came off at the end of my stay without difficulty.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:08 PM   #72
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Thanks everyone! So many great ideas. There are so many decisions, hard to keep them all straight.

Thanks Jim, we were confused about the extra brake lights. We were told (or thought) that the upper row of lights were just running lights....

Tom, In our Casita we had the West Marine TP holder (loved it!), towel bars on the door and 2 large wire baskets that held toiletries on the wall. All but the TP holder were behind the shower curtain so everything stayed dry. We haven't quite figured out where we will have dry towels in the 21. We were hoping to have 1 or 2 towel bars on the bathroom door but Escape really does not want to reinforce the door because of the hinges so.. I think we just need to camp in it for a while and figure it out, just don't want to miss the opportunity to reinforce areas while it's being built.

Thanks Jim, we really like to hang wet coats inside until they dry - they don't always dry very well hanging outside in the cold and wet, I'm sure we'll figure that out too since a lot of you seem to have success with it.

Thanks Karen, I have quite the variety of suction cup hooks, I'll try the ones from Home Depot (I saw those mixed reviews too).
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:59 AM   #73
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I bought these at Lowe's and despite mixed reviews, I found they work great on the outside of the trailer and will hold up even a wet bath towel:

Shop interDesign 2-Pack Plastic Suction Cup Hooks at Lowes.com
We, too, use these hooks when traveling just about anywhere and they are fantastic. They work in hotel/cruise ship bathrooms, etc. Thanks for reminding me how great they are and I'm hitting the local Lowe's for more.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:13 PM   #74
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I do own the prototype 21 that Reace and Tammy got their ideas from to make the Escape 21. When Reace designs something it is very well done. The new 21 is well received by the molded fiberglass crowd. I was shocked to learn from many of my friends who said they ordered a Escape 21.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:21 PM   #75
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Is your BF 21 RB the prototype or do you have another unit, both your bed and bath is in the rear is it not, while the Escape's are both in the front?
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:08 PM   #76
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To clear things up in 2012 at Bandon,Oregon, Reace and Tammy came to our trailer with a camera and tape measure. They looked the trailer over from top to bottom. They asked people questions about what they would like in a new trailer concept. Bandon 2012 was the hatching of ideas of the Escape 21.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:16 PM   #77
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Chuck, knowing them I would bet they looked over lots and lots of other trailer layouts as well, then worked out what would best suit their mould.
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And Reace came on the forums here and asked people what they'd like. I see zero resemblance between a BF 21 and an Escape 21. The kitchen is even on the opposite side.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:31 PM   #79
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I wonder if a layout "B" is in the works where the bed is moved out of view from the door way. Maybe going across the front. Or maybe a curtian rod on the ceiling around the end of the current bed position.
Just a thought.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:43 PM   #80
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I see zero resemblance between a BF 21 and an Escape 21.
I agree that there doesn't seem to be any direct relationship. I assume that Reace and Tammy were just getting an idea - from the Bigfoot 21 - of the space and size of interior features that would be expected of this size of trailer.

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2500 Series Travel Trailers - Bigfoot RV - Truck Campers & Travel Trailers - Recreational Vehicle Manufacturer (look at the 25B21FB for comparison)

Among other differences, the Escape is a foot narrower than the Bigfoot, and due to that size difference plus construction differences the Escape is only 2/3 of the weight of the Bigfoot.

The Escape 21 floorplan is very different from a Bigfoot 25B21FB (Front Bed). Although it is very nearly the same as a 25B21RB (Rear Bed), this is a very common RV layout - many small motorhomes have the same bed and bath configuration, for instance. There are limited number of rational ways to arrange the same components in the same size and shape of space.
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