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Old 09-11-2013, 07:53 AM   #11
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I do like the view through your window. You do get a much better view. Wise I had put more thought into that but with the new slider bathroom window I guess it will be nice to be able to open it the rain.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:16 AM   #12
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As seen by the responses in this thread, deciding what options one wants or needs in a camper is a very personal decision, and what is considered "essential" will vary tremendously based on a person's individual likes/dislikes and financial circumstances.

Many of the items that others are saying "are not required" or "you can do without" in the above responses, I personally am glad that we purchased, and have no regrets about it. I bought my Escape not only thinking of my current likes and needs, but I also had in mind what I may want or need several years down the road as my family and job circumstances change, and I am closer to retirement.

Choose carefully and enjoy your decisions.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:24 AM   #13
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I see you went with the extra insulation and double pane thermal windows. $1000. I did the same. A huge benefit of those windows is little to no condensation even camping in the cool/cold Canadian spring and fall. It didn't make sense to me to turn around and spend even more $'s on single pane opening windows that negate the benefits of the most costly option on your list.

Actually Reese had to point that out to me ;-) then he let me make my mind up. Wise man :-)
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The removal electrical cord keeps the camper sealed up and does not let mice or any other creepy crawlers into the camper. For the price it is a must for us. I added it on the Casita and by the time I was finished it was around $100 doing it myself. I would also recommend the surge protector to protect the trailer electronics. The price Escape sells it for is cheep insurance.
I too converted mine, and am glad I did. For me it was not so much that something could get it, it did seal off fairly well while in use, but the main reason I did not like the "stuff-it" method, was the tangled mess inside. It sometimes would tangle with other stuff in storage, and took up space I was able to make way better use of.
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:45 AM   #15
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I selected the extra insulation, the LED's, window over the sink, the microwave, an extra 12v outlet, the dual 6 volt batteries, TV ready, and chose my own custom upholstery. Everything else, all standard.

Think getting the microwave and the upholstery could turn out to be our two most extravagant, un-necessary luxuries. Time will tell.
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Old 09-11-2013, 11:49 AM   #16
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I too converted mine, and am glad I did. For me it was not so much that something could get it, it did seal off fairly well while in use, but the main reason I did not like the "stuff-it" method, was the tangled mess inside. It sometimes would tangle with other stuff in storage, and took up space I was able to make way better use of.

That too. I pulled the wires off the water heater controller twice before I said that's enough.
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #17
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We're going through our build sheet too right now for Spring delivery of our Escape 21 and so many of these comments are really helpful; even after hours of scouring the forums. Thank you all so much for your sage advice and sharing your real world experiences.

Burloak, what you said about the double pane windows makes so much sense, yet I hadn't thought of it before. You've just saved me a bundle. Thanks!

What I'm wrestling most with now are:
1) Spray foam insulation under the trailer: think spring/fall camping in the Alberta Rockies--would it be a big benefit?

2) Power inverter: I'm leaning towards trying to live without it. I think the 12V outlets would be sufficient for our needs. If I go this route, is it easy to add later?

3) Propane quick connect: I'd like to have BOTH a propane Coleman stove as well as our Weber Q120 grill hooked up to this. Is that possible? If they can't be rigged up so that they're both hooked up at the same time, maybe I'll just get a 10 lb tank and hook them both up to that. The extra tank would be a hassle, but there would be greater flexibility in the location of our cooking station.
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Quick connect.

I like being able to place the BBQ wherever it is convenient and sheltered. I have a 10 lb. tank. Doesn't weigh that much. Doesn't get dirty laying in the mud.
My buddy, Keath, has a quick connect that he's not used. Has a 10 lb. tank.
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Bpjod, a couple responses to your questions are shown below:

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What I'm wrestling most with now are:
1) Spray foam insulation under the trailer: think spring/fall camping in the Alberta Rockies--would it be a big benefit? We have the spray foam and double pane windows, and it seems to help keep the Escape cool in hot weather and easy to heat when it is cold. I have also noticed that the trailer is extremely quiet inside, which really helps you to get to sleep at night or to sleep in amidst noisy neighbors.

2) Power inverter: I'm leaning towards trying to live without it. I think the 12V outlets would be sufficient for our needs. If I go this route, is it easy to add later? We do not have an inverter, and in fact, do not even carry any portable 120V devices with us. So far 12V outlets and devices have filled our requirements.

3) Propane quick connect: I'd like to have BOTH a propane Coleman stove as well as our Weber Q120 grill hooked up to this. Is that possible? If they can't be rigged up so that they're both hooked up at the same time, maybe I'll just get a 10 lb tank and hook them both up to that. The extra tank would be a hassle, but there would be greater flexibility in the location of our cooking station. We have the propane quick connect and use it every day when camping for either the gas BBQ (Spitfire grill) or for the firebowl. Works great for both. You may wish to check that your devices are compatible with the low pressure propane service that the quick connect outlets provide.
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1) Spray foam insulation under the trailer: think spring/fall camping in the Alberta Rockies--would it be a big benefit?

2) Power inverter: I'm leaning towards trying to live without it. I think the 12V outlets would be sufficient for our needs. If I go this route, is it easy to add later?

3) Propane quick connect: I'd like to have BOTH a propane Coleman stove as well as our Weber Q120 grill hooked up to this. Is that possible? If they can't be rigged up so that they're both hooked up at the same time, maybe I'll just get a 10 lb tank and hook them both up to that. The extra tank would be a hassle, but there would be greater flexibility in the location of our cooking station.
1) This was not available when I got my trailer, though something to consider for sure. We pretty much camp just from Easter to Thanksgiving, and have never had an issue, just so long as it is above freezing during the day.

2) Mentioned above.

3) We have one, and use it all the time, and find the convenience can't be beat. You have to actually try it to understand. I never mine for the first 3 years, and now kick myself in the butt for not using it sooner. In fact I will either be adding another for a stove, or teeing off the existing hose somehow. For now with the stove, I tap right off the bottles. Works good, though not near as convenient. I have use separate bottles of all sizes, and do no prefer them. The hoses are much easier to store, I never run out of propane, and my costs are way lower. I am looking in to a way to rig up my Coleman stove without the supplied regulator so I can use it too. Again, it works great for me. YMMV
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