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05-01-2016, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 19' 5/02/17
Posts: 141
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High Lift Axle
Has anyone that got the lift felt that they wish they hadn't? Has it proved helpful?
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05-01-2016, 12:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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I got high lift on my 17B because I planned to get a Toyota Tacoma, but my wife reminded me that we are aging and it would be difficult to climb into the cab, so we ended up with a RAV4.
I have no regrets, however I suspect that gas mileage would be better without the lift.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
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05-01-2016, 12:24 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I have no regrets, however I suspect that gas mileage would be better without the lift.
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I dunno Glenn. I'll bet there's not any measurable difference. Frontal area is basically the same.
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05-01-2016, 12:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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I donno either.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
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05-01-2016, 12:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,528
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I had the high lift axle on the 19, and often felt I really did not need it, and I did a lot of off-highway driving with it.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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05-01-2016, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 19' 5/02/17
Posts: 141
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I would imagine dropping into a rut is the principle issue but the standard 19" seems higher than most out there don't you think?
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05-01-2016, 04:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
I dunno Glenn. I'll bet there's not any measurable difference. Frontal area is basically the same.
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Yes, the trailer's frontal area is changed little by ride height, since the area under the trailer is clear; however, airflow through there is not all free, and doesn't line up with a clear flow under the tow vehicle. The drag of the vehicle combination is almost certainly worse with the trailer sitting up even higher above the tug.
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05-01-2016, 05:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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My RAV4 is going to hang up before the trailer ( high lift or not ).
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
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05-01-2016, 05:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 699
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There are usually big differences in the roads that are regularly travelled by tourists and the less used logging roads and Forest Service Roads that aren't well maintained, but often lead to some great fishing destinations. I was especially uneasy going back to some of our favourite destinations with our Escape 21 because the foam insulation reduced our clearance.
Right now we are contemplating a trip to New Mexico and I am checking out the roads into some of the popular tourist destinations. We just watched some YouTube video of some guy driving the roads to Chaco Canyon. One road showed deep ruts with a high centre. Even with the lift kit we just added to improve our clearance, I wouldn't drive that road with the Escape. (There may be a better route in, or maybe it has been graded since the video). I worry about taking my beloved Escape down a road like this whose condition apparently changes after every big rain. (Yeah, I am a worrier!)
Bob K
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05-01-2016, 07:17 PM
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#10
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 19' 5/02/17
Posts: 141
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That's what I was kind of thinking gbag. My ride has ok clearance but probably not higher than the standard axle height on the trailer.
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03-20-2017, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: ,, Oklahoma
Trailer: 17
Posts: 840
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Anyone have a photo of the current, new mold, 17 footer with high lift axle option photo? I was unable to find one, thanks.
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03-21-2017, 02:50 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spokane, Washington
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B/2021 F150 w/ 3.5 Ecoboost
Posts: 368
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Did you every get a picture of a 17ft with the high lift axle? Here is one of mine but I'll have a better one for you when I pick it up on Friday.
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03-22-2017, 06:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: ,, Oklahoma
Trailer: 17
Posts: 840
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Wow, super nice, do you know what that little black thing is by your 110Volt plug on the exterior there. Looks like a little black switch. Maybe an exterior solar panel inlet? appreciate it and have a safe trip.
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03-22-2017, 06:53 AM
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#14
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: 78748, Texas
Trailer: 5.0 TA 2017 Taj MaSmall
Posts: 115
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2 Steps
I'm having these Standard Double Step put in by Trademaster after orientation. I had the same in the Casita and Scamp 19' with lift kit. Quite necessary for ageing hips and knees and short legged dogs.
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03-22-2017, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Monona, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2023 21NE "Hardley II" 2021 Toyota Tacoma (Diesel Jeep stranded us twice so it had to go)
Posts: 341
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gocamp
Wow, super nice, do you know what that little black thing is by your 110Volt plug on the exterior there. Looks like a little black switch. Maybe an exterior solar panel inlet? appreciate it and have a safe trip.
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I'm pretty sure that's an added 12v outlet.
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03-22-2017, 09:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Looks like a manual awning also....
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03-22-2017, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spokane, Washington
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17B/2021 F150 w/ 3.5 Ecoboost
Posts: 368
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Yes, I did have an exterior 12V outlet installed for running an air compressor, etc. And I did get the manual awning option.
Once I get delivery on Friday I'll do a picture run through of the trailer and the awning on a different thread.
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Rick
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03-23-2017, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Petaluma, California
Trailer: Escape 17B - Sept 2017
Posts: 254
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The high lift axle option raises the trailer 2.5 inches - how thick is the spray foam insulation? Net amount of lift? I have a 17B on order.
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03-24-2017, 10:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Petaluma, California
Trailer: Escape 17B - Sept 2017
Posts: 254
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I had read in a few previous posts about the under spray affecting the clearance thus my question - Escape has informed me that the spray is applied frame to frame and does not affect ground clearance.
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03-24-2017, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Parksville, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 17B
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parfsten
I had read in a few previous posts about the under spray affecting the clearance thus my question - Escape has informed me that the spray is applied frame to frame and does not affect ground clearance.
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I can confirm this, even with the regular axle on my 17B with spray foam there is no effect with respect to ground clearance. With no spray foam it would be the same clearance.
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2016 VW Touareg TDI
2014 Escape 17B "Glass Cabin"
2019 KC the Beagle
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