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Old 08-03-2018, 07:07 PM   #1
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Idea for a reclining seat in the dining area, 5.0TA

Let me prefix this with some background. I am widowed so it is just me & the dog. I rarely use the table and since I don't need a bunch of seating I really don't need the full use of the dinette area. In my Aframe I have extended the kitchen shelf over the dinette seat on that side & use the space under for storage. I expect the same in an Escape.

To give me more space in the Aframe I have made a drop leaf table/storage area that rests on the bed rails that opens up the space and I use my Lafuma lounge chair inside. In the Escape, specifically the 5.0TA, I want the U dinette arrangement for the base cabinets. The Lagun mount with a "shrinking" top looks like the thing to have to still have the table to pay bills on and other uses but get it out of the way.

The raised floor area, esp with the rear bench, does not look like it will leave enough room for the Lafuma without being tilted or rig a riser for the front. As an alternative, I was thinking that this seat ...



on the rear bench area with a footstool might satisfactorily substitute for the Lafuma.

I suspect that if it was on top of the bench cushion it would end up too high to match up with the folding footstool I already have as well as insufficient base to recline the seat. Therefore, both the seat & back cushions would need removed. The build could also specify a deeper base.

It would not look so good to have the full width, even as small as it is, bare, even with this seat in place. Covering it in carpet would help but I think there might be an alternative that would be better and there is the reason for this post. I'm not to the point yet of presenting my questions to ETI because if I do enough research, including asking here, I can give them the 99% complete list & not piecemeal.

Do you think that ETI would make the main part of the rear bench cushions in multiple pieces, similar to the current "filler" cushions?

This would allow an area to be removed for this seat. If multiple cushions are sized properly it could allow for multiple seat locations while maintaining a lot of the lounge look and even be more functional if needed with all of the cushions in place. And there would be less need to find someplace to store the unused cushions.

The Lagun mount, when the table is installed, will dictate somewhat how the cushion is divided into sections for this seat but with the right number and sizing of the cushions it could be quite versatile. More thinking, with actual measurements and even mockups, would determine the number and sizes.

Is it possible, would it work, are there alternatives to give me hours of comfy reclining to read or to fall asleep in while watching tv? Using the L seating that will be left after my kitchen counter extension does not really allow for the usual sprawl out into the corner with added cushions with feet on the unused space - which I don't find comfy long term anyway.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:21 PM   #2
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Another member, Jon V. installed one of these in his 21 Escape. Not sure if he had the factory do anything different, but he has one now. As far as the "U" dinette, I'm under the impression the spec's shown are more less fixed, perhaps an inch or two more or less, but Escape is standardizing some of their builds inside.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:29 PM   #3
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Other than the plywood supports, which are their for structural reasons, you may have more flexibility with the cushions, I'm sure you could have the cushions cut into custom pieces for a fee.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:52 PM   #4
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Another member, Jon V. installed one of these in his 21 Escape.
Jon had such a seat in his 17. I'm not sure if he also uses it in his 21. Perhaps he'll chime in. There were no factory mods. He just removed the cushion and placed it on the bench.
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Do you think that ETI would make the main part of the rear bench cushions in multiple pieces, similar to the current "filler" cushions?
As for the factory modifying the cushions, I don't see why not. You could always ask.
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Hey,there! Glad to see you here!

I asked about split cushions and was told yes. It was imho very pricey. I would have to go check old emails, but I wanted one of the bench cushions cut in two pieces and I think the quote was $150-200. I used 2 alternative cushions that I got in the garden section at target. Of course they are not the density and fabric quality as the ETI ones, but they fit perfectly and suit my purpose just fine.

Edited to add this was last November.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:40 PM   #6
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Tom W mentioned the raised floor in the dinette area which I had not noticed before I went and looked again at the photos on the ETI website. What is the purpose of the raised dinette? What's under there?
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:47 PM   #7
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21 raised dinette floor

Hi Greg- when ETI first introduced the 21 and the 5.0TA they were the only trailers without a raised floor in the rear. There was an ergonomic problem with the seating being so high and some of us did a raised floor mod. Gen2 models now have it.
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Hi Greg- when ETI first introduced the 21 and the 5.0TA they were the only trailers without a raised floor in the rear. There was an ergonomic problem with the seating being so high and some of us did a raised floor mod. Gen2 models now have it.

Thanks, Ross! So there is nothing under the raised area then?
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The fresh tank is still underneath, yet it is another 3-4 inches lower which means if installing a Springfield pedestal there is no need to worry about penetrating the shell with screws.
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... I wanted one of the bench cushions cut in two pieces and I think the quote was $150-200.
Ouch.

I wonder if that was for the mod itself or essentially per cut. I guess Ill find out since Id expect it to be 3 cushions.
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