Inverter option - Page 2 - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Me | General Topics > Shopping Escape
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-29-2016, 04:55 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 19' 5/02/17
Posts: 130
Ok I now have another question after reading another thread. If I get DC outlets no converter is necessary except to use my AC outlets correct. What other than the microwave is hooked to the AC outlets? Stove and oven? The DC outlets will provide charging for phone and laptop and plug in a radio correct? I will have solar by the way. I think I'm just giving up stove, oven and microwave without converter. Maybe I can save $550 and just add some DC outlets for being off shore power.
__________________

bsmoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:06 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 3,290
Converter: comes with trailer. It's like a battery charger. Takes 110 volts and charges the batteries.

Inverter: it's an option either purchased with the trailer or added afterwards. It takes 12 volt battery power and makes it 110 AC. They come in a range of sizes from tiny to thousands of watts. Depends on what you want to do.

12 volt outlets; can be the traditional cigarette lighter type or more commonly now, USB. Like the inverter, run off your batteries.

Everyone has different needs, you have to think about what equipment etc. you might want to run.

Ron
__________________

Ron in BC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:07 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
PGDriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,437
Inverter option

The microwave and the optional 110 volt 2 way hot water heater are the only things that require 110 volt AC besides the air conditioner. With the inverter we use an electric toaster, microwave, coffee maker, kettle, bender, hair dryer (Eileen only) and so on. We find that the solar will on sunny days bring the 6 volt batteries up to full capacity before lunchtime.

Cheers
Doug
__________________
Doug & Eileen
2015 Escape 5.0TA
2015 GMC Sierra Crew 4X4 6.2 8 speed
PGDriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:22 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 19' 5/02/17
Posts: 130
But the coffee maker etc could be run on the DC outlets correct? Now I see that the stove an oven run off propane also? I'm beginning to think that I can easily get by without the inverter by adding a few DC plugs and use of solar.
bsmoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:28 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 9,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC View Post
Converter: comes with trailer. It's like a battery charger. Takes 110 volts and charges the batteries.

Inverter: it's an option either purchased with the trailer or added afterwards. It takes 12 volt battery power and makes it 110 AC. They come in a range of sizes from tiny to thousands of watts. Depends on what you want to do.
Thanks Ron - I was going to post something like that when I saw bsmoke's question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC View Post
12 volt outlets; can be the traditional cigarette lighter type or more commonly now, USB. Like the inverter, run off your batteries.
Yes, except that the power line in a USB connection is 5 volts, not 12 volts... that's why USB adapters are not just connectors, they are small power supplies (voltage converters). A USB adapter can be powered by 12 volts DC or 120 V AC, but in an RV it makes sense to use adapters powered by 12 V (from the trailer's battery or the converter), because they will always work, rather than depending on having AC power available.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC View Post
Everyone has different needs, you have to think about what equipment etc. you might want to run.
Absolutely!
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:32 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
PGDriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,437
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmoke View Post
But the coffee maker etc could be run on the DC outlets correct? Now I see that the stove an oven run off propane also? I'm beginning to think that I can easily get by without the inverter by adding a few DC plugs and use of solar.
No the coffee maker runs on 110 volt (or AC), same as the AC that's in your house.
I have not found a blender, toaster, coffeemaker or hair dryer that run off 12 volt (or DC) that work worth a darn. So these are some of the items we run off the inverter.
Other things such as cell phone, small fans etc, can be charged or run directly from the USB outlets.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Doug
__________________
Doug & Eileen
2015 Escape 5.0TA
2015 GMC Sierra Crew 4X4 6.2 8 speed
PGDriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:38 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
LarryandLiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Maple Ridge, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 17B;2012 Nissan Frontier SV 4
Posts: 569
Hi Bsmoke,

Perhaps it will be useful to read about how we went about decision making re Inverter Option.

We were new to traveling with a trailer and had to figure out what a converter does and what an inverter does. The bigger issue was trying to anticipate what kind of camping we were likely to be doing. Although we didn't know for sure the idea of minamalism was appealing. Boondocking in our provincial parks and forestry recreational sites without shore power was very appealing.

So we went without the inverter relying upon solar and 12 volt power. The trailer is microwave and TV ready but that was in anticipation of our children inheriting or us selling the trailer many years in the future. We have neither microwave or TV and haven't missed them. Not being complete minimalists we have A/C for those times we are in hot areas and have shore power. We have a small portable Inverter to grind coffee beans (we love our coffee perk).

The 12 volt system works recharging our devises. One thing to keep in mind regarding the inverter option is that apparently it quickly depletes your batteries. I've read other forum members complaining that the inverter hums with an annoying sound.

Hopefully this info is useful. Enjoy the process.

Larry

We bought this toast maker. Haven't used it yet but plan to next week when we are out http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/camp-sto...pBYaAqA58P8HAQ
LarryandLiz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:40 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 9,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmoke View Post
But the coffee maker etc could be run on the DC outlets correct?
You can buy 12 VDC coffemakers, but few people would use them so there is little selection, they're expensive, and if they are designed to run on the amount of current allowed from a common "lighter" socket (only 10 amps or 120 watts) they don't have enough power.

You can use a normal 120 VAC coffeemaker, using an inverter when away from a powered campsite (or generator), but you need to have enough battery capacity (and solar or something to recharge the battery).

The most effective solution is to heat your water for coffee on the propane stove. There are many ways to make coffee, but in the end they all just need a heat source and they can be done on a stovetop.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmoke View Post
Now I see that the stove an oven run off propane also?
Yes, the stove (and the oven if you get that) run only on propane. Anything requiring a lot of heat takes too much energy to run electrically unless you have AC power at the campsite, or a generator, or a large solar system... so all that stuff is normally run on propane (or can run on either propane or AC power depending on what you have) in common RVs of all types:
  • stove
  • oven
  • furnace
  • water heater
  • refrigerator (if traditional absorption type, which is what Escape installs)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmoke View Post
I'm beginning to think that I can easily get by without the inverter by adding a few DC plugs and use of solar.
As Ron said, it depends on your specific situation... but yes, that's a common conclusion.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 05:47 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 9,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryandLiz View Post
We have a small portable Inverter to grind coffee beans (we love our coffee perk).
That wouldn't use much power (my electric grinder only takes 100 watts, and it only takes a few seconds per cup), and there are hand-cranked grinders as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryandLiz View Post
One thing to keep in mind regarding the inverter option is that apparently it quickly depletes your batteries.
That isn't the inverter's fault. If what you are running needs a lot of power, then a lot of power must come out of the battery, whether you use that power at 12 V DC or 120 V AC. That's why cooking or space heating with battery power is a problem, but running small electronics or even laptops isn't bad... whether you use adapters that plug into 12 volt outlets or adapters that plug into a small inverter.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2016, 06:03 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cambridge, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 19' 5/02/17
Posts: 130
Thanks so much. I've been using a canvas tent for years and am a traditional bowhunter using longbow and making arrows for elk and whitetail so I certainly have lived the minimalist camping lifestyle. This is an adjustment for me so I am so glad this forum is helping me through this purchase.
__________________

bsmoke is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.