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Old 08-30-2019, 02:08 AM   #1
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Looking to buy. Different sizes

I have been a minimalist camper-starting with tent then small popup. We are in a financial position to finally buy a camper and proper tow vehicle. I was thinking I wanted the 17A - but started thinking that it might be nice to have bathroom. Then I looked at 19, which I like because of double axle and queen bed. Now I'm looking at 21 because the extra room sounds good and I would like to be on the road for 2-3 months at a time. However, we prefer small forest service or national park campgrounds. And I'm thinking the 21 ft might start being a little on the big side. Comments? Also, if I'm reading it right, the 21 ft has a double permanent bed rather than a queen. Is that right? Thanks
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Old 08-30-2019, 04:05 AM   #2
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The 21' is WIDER than the 19' as well, it makes all the difference. We also liked the look of the 5.0 but when we saw them all in person it was a no-brainer. The 21' Escape was the one for us. It's also their biggest seller. We just ordered and are anticipating a December completion date. : )
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Old 08-30-2019, 06:10 AM   #3
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I have been a minimalist camper-starting with tent then small popup. We are in a financial position to finally buy a camper and proper tow vehicle. I was thinking I wanted the 17A - but started thinking that it might be nice to have bathroom. Then I looked at 19, which I like because of double axle and queen bed. Now I'm looking at 21 because the extra room sounds good and I would like to be on the road for 2-3 months at a time. However, we prefer small forest service or national park campgrounds. And I'm thinking the 21 ft might start being a little on the big side. Comments? Also, if I'm reading it right, the 21 ft has a double permanent bed rather than a queen. Is that right? Thanks
A 5.0TA has lots of room and a full queen bed but when hitched to your truck your combined length is only as long as if you were towing a 17. We also like to camp in national parks and forest service campgrounds which often have small sites and the 5.0TA is great for fitting into those.
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Old 08-30-2019, 07:01 AM   #4
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The 21' is WIDER than the 19' as well, it makes all the difference. We also liked the look of the 5.0 but when we saw them all in person it was a no-brainer. The 21' Escape was the one for us.
There is something for everyone. We ordered a 21' Escape, but decided it was best if we looked at a 5.0. Just a block from the 5.0 we got to visit we both agreed on our choice. We changed our order to a 5.0 just a few days before the 21' order would have been finalized. For us the no-brainer was the 5.0. Again YMMV.

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A 5.0TA has lots of room and a full queen bed but when hitched to your truck your combined length is only as long as if you were towing a 17. We also like to camp in national parks and forest service campgrounds which often have small sites and the 5.0TA is great for fitting into those.
When we visited that 5.0 one of the owners commented on how small a campsite was needed for the 5th wheel. We avoid commercial parks at all costs, so also camp in mainly national parks and state/federal forest service campgrounds. We went from a 23' pull-type to the 5.0. The difference in length was night and day. There have been times where we camped in spots a 19' Escape would have had problems.

Food for thought.

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Old 08-30-2019, 08:50 AM   #5
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I have been a minimalist camper-starting with tent then small popup. We are in a financial position to finally buy a camper and proper tow vehicle. I was thinking I wanted the 17A - but started thinking that it might be nice to have bathroom. Then I looked at 19, which I like because of double axle and queen bed. Now I'm looking at 21 because the extra room sounds good and I would like to be on the road for 2-3 months at a time. However, we prefer small forest service or national park campgrounds. And I'm thinking the 21 ft might start being a little on the big side. Comments? Also, if I'm reading it right, the 21 ft has a double permanent bed rather than a queen. Is that right? Thanks
I always say it's what works for you and how you plan to use the unit. My wife and I purchased a 19 three years ago and couldn't be happier. Due to family issues the longest we have done so far is about a month and we had no problems. We were tent and then pop up campers and have always kept things to a minimum. We are outside almost all the time except for sleeping or really terrible weather so it works for us. Camping is meant to be fun and everyone has a different perspective. One thing I do know is that it seems no matter which one people buy they are very happy with their decision. Weigh all the pluses and minuses and pull the trigger. You will be glad you did.
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:14 AM   #6
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Hmmm. I like the idea of a 5th wheel. But I don't think the 5 would work for us since we are canoeists. We usually put the canoes on top of the vehicle on yakima racks. Plus we are wanting to get into oar rafting. I think we will need the truck bed for toys.
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:30 AM   #7
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We have camped in a lot of US forest service camp grounds and US National
Parks. Our 21 fits in a very high percentage say 95%, of these sites designed for trailers. We uncouple most days so it’s common to pull in crossways or side by two in the shorter sites. We went to the 21 from the 19 for the extra width and bigger bath. We are happy with the 21 bed and I am not a small person. The only problem with the Escape bath is that I cannot spread my arms for full volume when singing with a Luciano Pavarotti recording after a long day on the road and a few cold Peroni beers. (Paints a picture don’t it?)
I never minded the crawl over in the 19. But I’m young yet.
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:38 AM   #8
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Make mine Andrea Bocelli. But I'm with you on the 21' Escape. We were thinking that when one is trailer-bound (during bad weather) that we would rather have the extra living space.
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I used to be a minimalist camper too, those days seem to be gone.

I've had to pass by a lot of camp sites that I wish I could have used due to the size of the truck/trailer length, mostly forest service and national parks. So yes, it makes a difference. Check out the site lengths that are allowed at any of the campgrounds in Yellowstone as an example. A 21' trailer and a 17' or so long TV like a Durango, make for a 38'+ rig. Not a lot of sites that the rules say you'll fit in. Try some of the first come first serve campgrounds, they are even smaller.
The 19, is only 18" shorter.
A lot of places have many sites for a max of 20' trailers.

Some of my apprehension in using out of the way campsites comes from the access as opposed to the site itself. As the trailers get bigger you need more room to turn around and just in general be able to navigate the roads.

If I were more concerned with where I could get the trailer then in my comfort, I'd trade for a 19, but that isn't going to happen unless I become single.
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When I moved from a 17 to a 21, I was concerned about fitting in some of the smaller sites, but after two years, I have only had one or two occasions where the larger trailer didn't fit. With both trailers, I ran into a few sites where I had to park the truck off site.

Do remember that the Escapes, like most fiberglass trailers include the tongue in the length measurement, while most stick built trailers do not. That gives you an extra 3' in fitting into most published campsite measurements.
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