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Old 04-22-2014, 12:41 AM   #11
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Would think payload is the issue, not towing capacity. Donna, yours should be on the yellow tire pressure and load sticker on the door jamb.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:57 AM   #12
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Would think payload is the issue, not towing capacity. Donna, yours should be on the yellow tire pressure and load sticker on the door jamb.
Yeppers Bob. I could tow nearly any trailer currently built. And it's a V-6! Moving from a Triton V-8 to a V-6 I expected a drop in power from acceleration. OMG it feels like moving from a four cylinder to a 12 cylinder. Doing the happy dance! Don't worry. I'm buying an all molded towable, not a brick on wheels.
When I find the dang camera, I'll take a pic of the door jam sticker and post it. Stand by...
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:27 AM   #13
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With all the challenge around hitch rails why haven't more folk adopted a goose neck hitch system?

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Old 04-22-2014, 06:55 AM   #14
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The only negatives I can see are you need either rails or a Gooseneck in the bed. You have the addition of safety chains to get to, no idea if that's a hassle with the higher truck beds. If no one has, it should be run by ETI to verify it does not effect the frame warranty.

Sure would be nice to have the lighter weight though.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:10 AM   #15
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Okay here are my tundra weights.
Door sticker said truck capacity is 1255

Manual said 1400

My calculations
Pin weight 500
People 440
Hitch itself 150
Dog 65
Misc stuff 100

Total 1255

Seems odd. That is one reason I am considering an upgrade to a larger truck. Did I miscalculate?

With my casita tongue load of 350 or so I wasn't far from this but that thing felt like a toy behind the tundra.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:49 AM   #16
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Crap-o-la, I can't answer any questions. My new truck has exactly 38 miles on the odometer, but is "supposed" to be able to handle in excess of 10,000 lbs towing.

If you own a Tundra, I'm betting you're close to the same. Those are NOT wimpy trucks. Check your owners manual first. Everything else is speculation.

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trucks for a reason, they were originally designed to carry 1000 lbs. My Ram hemi can pull close to 12,000 pounds, but it can only carry about 1/10 of that amount. Check your specs, with a heavy pin weight, 4 passengers, fuel, you maybe also approaching the limit.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:53 AM   #17
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Don,
It looks like you maybe needing another $35k for an upgrade, so now you package is close to $70K. It is these things that keep the economy growing, spoken by a "7 trailer in 6 years" owner.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:16 AM   #18
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With my casita tongue load of 350 or so I wasn't far from this but that thing felt like a toy behind the tundra.
Using your numbers, you will only be adding 300 lbs to the load (extra 150 from the trailer, and extra 150 from the hitch, plus it would be a better loading in the middle of the truck bed.

I would talk to your dealer, and see if a factory tow package adds and capacity as well, I know with Ford it does.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:53 AM   #19
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I believe the pin weight of the 5.0 single axle is closer to 600 pounds. The 5.0TA is unknown but I'm guessing it will be heavier.

The capacity of my Frontier is 1160 pounds. Towing capacity is 6300 pounds. The cargo capacity is the limiting factor for these 5th wheels.

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Okay here are my tundra weights.
Door sticker said truck capacity is 1255

Manual said 1400

My calculations
Pin weight 500
People 440
Hitch itself 150
Dog 65
Misc stuff 100

Total 1255
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I'm guessing 700 to 800 lbs for the 5.0 TA. "wet"
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