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Old 04-23-2014, 11:06 PM   #51
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So I am thinking the F250 mainly because it has the "below Bed rails" for the 5th ...
You can also use just a wide range of pickups for which the same Reese "Power Puck" system is available aftermarket - including F-150 and Sierra 1500. You can also use the B&W Companion or similar systems. I like the idea of a factory-installed hitch, but I wouldn't want to resort to a Super Duty truck towing a lightweight trailer just to get that.

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That big Ford truck is just cool. Maybe it's the flames. Had that pic for a while. Probably from a car/truck show. Gotta love it.
Check out Home | F650 Supertrucks if you find those rigs interesting.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:40 PM   #52
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I have a 2013 F150 4x4 crew cab with Ecoboost. On the door...max capacity is 1600 lbs. This is with a full tank of fuel.

The standard fifth wheel hitch is approximately 75 lbs.

With the family in the truck and a few extras...800 lbs.

That leaves 725 lbs for pin weight. Much more if we leave the kids at home!


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Old 04-24-2014, 01:14 AM   #53
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You can also use just a wide range of pickups for which the same Reese "Power Puck" system is available aftermarket - including F-150 and Sierra 1500. You can also use the B&W Companion or similar systems. I like the idea of a factory-installed hitch, but I wouldn't want to resort to a Super Duty truck towing a lightweight trailer just to get that.


Check out Home | F650 Supertrucks if you find those rigs interesting.

Cool! I want the F650 Extreme. It's only $150k. I'd sell my house and cars and then could buy one........ and live in it. lol
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:01 AM   #54
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Hi: emers382...Would you like me to include a case of slim fast in the "Camping package" too!!! Alf
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Hey Alf, no need since Rease just said a standard fifth wheel is 75 lbs (somewhere else here I read 150 lbs) guess we'll be alright unless we take all four of the grandkids but that's not likely despite the fact we just bought a six seater.

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Hey Alf, no need since Rease just said a standard fifth wheel is 75 lbs (somewhere else here I read 150 lbs) guess we'll be alright unless we take all four of the grandkids but that's not likely despite the fact we just bought a six seater.

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Our B&W Patriot hitch weighs 114 pounds plus the weight of the rails....but it might weigh more than the standard hitch because it can be adjusted into 3 positions....don't know.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:11 PM   #56
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The lowest capacity (but still much more than the Escape 5.0 needs) and presumably lightest series of Reese hitch - presumably the one Reace installs - is the 15K / 16K Fifth Wheel. The basic version has a shipping weight of 97 pounds... plus the 63 pound rail-and-bracket kit. The premium version is 98 pounds (strange, since the features over the basic include cast parts and a heavier jaw mechanism)... again plus the 63 pound rail-and-bracket kit.

A slider adds another 62 pounds to a hitch in this series, if you choose to use one.

It looks like a Reese (or similar) fifth-wheel hitch adds over 150 pounds to the truck, even without a slider.

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Our B&W Patriot hitch weighs 114 pounds plus the weight of the rails....but it might weigh more than the standard hitch because it can be adjusted into 3 positions....don't know.
Good point, but most hitches are height-adjustable; the Reese 16K has four height settings. The extra weight in the Patriot might be due to the hardware to anchor to the ball socket.
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Hmmm after this discussion. I am also looking into an F150 with all the payload options and the after market puck system Reese makes for it so rails are not in the bed.

Thanks Reece for posting. I will wait and watch the pimp weight range as the first few come to completion. That after all is the big factor.
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Um, that is Pin Weight. That is what I get for trying to type on a tablet with my fat fingers, sorry folks.
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Dealers locally were quoting me $2500 + for a slider and $1000 +/- for a basic hitch...installed. Couldn't believe the difference.
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Dealers locally were quoting me $2500 + for a slider and $1000 +/- for a basic hitch...installed. Couldn't believe the difference.
Interesting, since the difference between the Reese hitch which ETI installs and a slider version of the same hitch is a roughly $400 component (see eTrailer examples).

Perhaps the $1500 difference from these dealers results from changing from a basic fifth-wheel to more sophisticated design, such as a PullRite SuperGlide... but then, even at regular Camping World prices that's only a $1300 hitch (less than $1000 premium over a non-sliding hitch). The automatic hitches such as a SuperGlide do need extra hardware on the pin box, perhaps accounting for some more of the difference; you don't need that with a manual slider.
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