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Old 12-14-2018, 08:07 PM   #1
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Yes, and that is too bad! Seeing how many interested people visited the 15, parked behind us at the Boler event....
Intrigued and interested in buying one for themselves are two different things. Surely if ETI was continuing to sell enough of them they wouldn’t have been discontinued. I believe a big factor in ETI’s motivation was getting models produced with more space than Scamp and Casita. If I recall they developed the 19 based on a survey of the desires of the fiberglass community. This strategy seems to have worked well for Escape.
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:48 PM   #2
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Intrigued and interested in buying one for themselves are two different things. Surely if ETI was continuing to sell enough of them they wouldn’t have been discontinued. I believe a big factor in ETI’s motivation was getting models produced with more space than Scamp and Casita. If I recall they developed the 19 based on a survey of the desires of the fiberglass community. This strategy seems to have worked well for Escape.
Strategic planning. And yes, ETI made the right choices. And I am sure they will continue making the right decisions in the future. The most important feature of ETI is listening to their customers, which sure has paid off!
(According to some Boler owners, entering our 19, we camp in a castle)
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:49 PM   #3
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:35 PM   #4
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. I believe a big factor in ETI’s motivation was getting models produced with more space than Scamp and Casita. If I recall they developed the 19 based on a survey of the desires of the fiberglass community. This strategy seems to have worked well for Escape.
If you read the Casita Forum there have been several threads speculating about Casita coming out with a 19 or 20 or 21 ft trailer . It appears from reading those threads that the interest in a bigger Casita is pretty strong . If Casita offered a larger trailer when we decided to upgrade from our Casita 17 SD , Casita would have been our first choice .
Escape made a wise decision with their 19 & 21 ft trailers . They saw an opening in the FG trailer market and decided to fill the void .
I realize there is Oliver and Bigfoot but they are at a totally different price point .
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:36 PM   #5
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It appears from reading those threads that the interest in a bigger Casita is pretty strong...
...Escape made a wise decision with their 19 & 21 ft trailers . They saw an opening in the FG trailer market and decided to fill the void. I realize there is Oliver and Bigfoot but they are at a totally different price point .
Exactly
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If you read the Casita Forum there have been several threads speculating about Casita coming out with a 19 or 20 or 21 ft trailer . It appears from reading those threads that the interest in a bigger Casita is pretty strong . If Casita offered a larger trailer when we decided to upgrade from our Casita 17 SD , Casita would have been our first choice .
Escape made a wise decision with their 19 & 21 ft trailers . They saw an opening in the FG trailer market and decided to fill the void .
I realize there is Oliver and Bigfoot but they are at a totally different price point .
That would be interesting Steve . The more choices the better it is . We almost bought a Casita first . Wonder what the lay outs would be like ? If nothing else I sometimes can get idea's , just like looking at model homes . Pat
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If you read the Casita Forum there have been several threads speculating about Casita coming out with a 19 or 20 or 21 ft trailer .
There's so much more to consider than just length of a trailer. Oliver has a trailer 23.6' and it's all bed! Just kidding, but it still has a tiny kitchen. The layout does not appeal to me one iota.
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Old 12-15-2018, 06:34 AM   #8
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I was on the cusp of buying a Casita several months ago. I'd looked at one twice and was discussing options with the sales guy there (same direct sales model as Escape). Then I got inside an Escape 19 and it sold me. Well, the trailer itself and the tow weight--a Casita 17 Deluxe and and Escape 19 stripped models and dry weigh within 100 lbs of other (>3000 lbs) and both tow (max) +/- 4000.

So, I'm here to tell you that, yeah, those strategic decisions do have consequences when it comes to customer purchasing decisions.

Casita makes some choices (like lining interiors with carpet for insulation and using particle board instead of plywood in the interior) that tend to increase weight. I suspect a 19 foot Casita Deluxe might come in around the weight of the Escape 21, unless they seriously re-engineered their line. Of course, they are under a new generation of leadership, and they may very well be willing to take on a project like that.
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We too were seriously considering a casita till we saw 3 21s at a rally here in Texas. Bang we were sold on Escape. One down side on casitas is that they are not open customers request for special things a customer would like the way Escape is.
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Old 12-15-2018, 07:25 AM   #10
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We like many started out with a Casita and wanted something larger. About a year ago I started a thread on the Casita forum asking would Casita ever make a 19' or 21'? Based on some of the responses it received was the only time I didn't feel welcome on the site. Many said why would they change something that's working and of course my response was if you don't change eventually someone will take your idea and EXPAND on it. To me that is what Escape has done they have taken an idea and make it bigger and some would say better.
I'll be curious to see what Casita does regarding this, competition is good for all of us.

Happy and safe holidays to all,

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