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Old 07-23-2017, 12:23 PM   #1
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Sink and Cabinet mod

Just about finished on our build out sheet and looking for a little advise. Would like a larger and deeper sink than what comes with the new 21 and was told max depth can't be larger than 16 inches and has to be a drop in with no precut holes. Has any one found a stainless steel sink on Amazon that would work that they are happy with? I'm thinking it would be cheaper to ship through my Amazon Prime.

Also I'm probably going to add the taller cabinet by the bed. Is the counter worth keeping or would added storage be better? I like the idea of using the cabinet by the fridge for a pantry and the one by the bed for cloths. Any thoughts? Red Dog posted a great shelving system by his cabinet next to the fridge. Thinking something similar might work great for cloths as well.

Wardrobe and storage ideas would be helpful.

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Old 07-23-2017, 12:35 PM   #2
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I've no advice on the taller cabinet by the bed, except to say there is ample storage elsewhere in the 21, and extending the storage might make it feel too closed in.

As for the sinks, I like a bar sink with zero radius corners and about an 8" bowl depth - like this one on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z8CIS1S..._02nDzbZJJFPD6
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I call that area the night stand and it was handy for tv watching in bed as well as emptying your pockets at night. The stock closet is huge and the area overhead is very big for a pantry. We did not have the microwave. Enclosing it appears to make the area cramped. Some have added an optional window over the "night stand" which makes it very open. I'd suggest a flip up shelf there also. We had the 3 drawer model, now it is only 2 drawers due to furnace relocation.
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I call that area the night stand and it was handy for tv watching in bed as well as emptying your pockets at night. The stock closet is huge and the area overhead is very big for a pantry. We did not have the microwave. Enclosing it appears to make the area cramped. Some have added an optional window over the "night stand" which makes it very open. I'd suggest a flip up shelf there also. We had the 3 drawer model, now it is only 2 drawers due to furnace relocation.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:15 PM   #5
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We got the extended cabinet and really like it. Neither of us watch TV in bed and didn't see any other use for that counter. You do get a flip up counter with the extended cabinet and I've used it a few times. Left it up while sleeping in bed and it wasn't a problem.

I had ETI install a shelf about half way in the extended cabinet. I use the top for my dirty clothes hamper and it fits perfectly.

I don't really carry stuff around in my pockets, so nothing to empty out of them when I get back in the trailer. We put in some key holders on that cabinet wall - one for keys and the other for the Cocoon sunglass cases. (2nd holder was added after this photo was taken, as well as black sticky felt under the key area as they made lots of noise moving back and forth - the felt stops that from happening.)

You'll also want to order some shelf toppers from Charlie of RV Widget Works. I've got 3 of them and they really add to your storage needs. They'll fit both the drawers under the kitchen cabinet and above the furnace.

Neither of us feel the extended cabinet makes the area feel "closed in". It's all subjective, I guess.
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Thanks all for your helpful replies. Just got bumped up to Oct 31st, getting really excited!

Here's another question. If we are getting the solar with inverter 1500 why would I need extra 12v anywhere. Wouldn't my 120 outlets work?
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Hi Robert, Hope you all are well. Just got our date for pick up bumped up to Oct 31st! Getting really excited!

The sink you sent says it's an undermount so don't think it will work. The search continues...

Tell Yolanda I said Hi and that I'm still making her juice! Also have you guys and Fred and Dora down for referral.
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Thanks all for your helpful replies. Just got bumped up to Oct 31st, getting really excited!

Here's another question. If we are getting the solar with inverter 1500 why would I need extra 12v anywhere. Wouldn't my 120 outlets work?
A lot of chargers use 12v USB and it is always more economical and efficient to use 12v to charge 12v appliances, such as smart phones and computers. By skipping 12v outlets you end up using 12v batteries to convert to 120v to charge a 12v appliance you see the extra effort. If you plan correctly, you really may not need any 120v use except for microwave, everything else is available in 12v. I always install extra 12v outlets in all my trailers and never need an inverter. Save yourself some $$$, just because an inverter is available does not mean you need it.
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A lot of chargers use 12v USB and it is always more economical and efficient to use 12v to charge 12v appliances, such as smart phones and computers...
There's no 12V USB - the power supply voltage in a USB connection is 5V - but it is true that many devices charge through a USB connection, and USB chargers powered by 12V (and designed to plug into automotive accessory sockets) are common. There are probably no 12V smartphones or computers in production, but most (perhaps now all) smartphones do charge from USB, and there are 12V-powered chargers available for most computers.
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I thought the USB/12v outlet installed by Escape ran off 12v battery. Maybe I should say you need DC versus AC, to charge items.
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