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09-26-2015, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
How would options add up to #00 lbs? Most of my options are decorative. The 20" tires, up from the 18" stock would be about the only big thing, and that can't be 100 lbs total.
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Hi: Jim Bennett... Looks like you might just need the "Slim fast" after all!!! Alf
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09-26-2015, 10:25 AM
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Hi Jim,
Look for the "TIRE AND LOADING INFORMATION" sticker opposite the VIN sticker. These are specific to each vehicle according to it's options. I know that it still comes down to actual scale weight.
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09-26-2015, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie & Lucy
Hi Jim,
Look for the "TIRE AND LOADING INFORMATION" sticker opposite the VIN sticker. These are specific to each vehicle according to it's options. I know that it still comes down to actual scale weight.
Charlie
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I have one of those Charlie, but I thought it was only tire specific, but I will have a look. Headed out to look at some houses right now, but will report back when I return.
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09-26-2015, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: Jim Bennett... Looks like you might just need the "Slim fast" after all!!! Alf
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I just might, thought on a diet right now that see's me consuming no grains, dairy, sugar, alcohol, processed food, legumes, and a few other things. On day 13 of 30, and not dead yet.
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09-26-2015, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I have one of those Charlie, but I thought it was only tire specific, but I will have a look. Headed out to look at some houses right now, but will report back when I return.
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That label is tire specific as your wheel and tire combo's change your towing and carrying capacities.
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09-26-2015, 10:51 AM
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Nice truck Jim. That should get you to the lake in style!
i just have a step ladder in my truck bed for the high tailgate. Works as a cargo separator too!
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09-26-2015, 12:44 PM
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I just checked that tire sticker, and it says 1,646 lbs. There are really no changes, other than the tires that should change it that much, I would think. Maybe I will still find a scale, and just weight it.
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
That label is tire specific as your wheel and tire combo's change your towing and carrying capacities.
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I can see how that might have a bit of an effect on towing, with the 2" bigger tires, but not payload, as that is weight acting downwards. Plus, the difference of 360 lbs seems huge.
Though to put in into context, it is more than enough for my needs anyway, and it really is good to know what the limits really are.
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09-26-2015, 12:56 PM
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My larger tires reduced my capacity also.....but 1646 lbs is certainly enough for your needs.
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09-26-2015, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I guess I would want to weigh it before I put much of anything in, or on, the truck. Other than driving a 250 km on it last night, it has a full tank of gas, which I assume is payload.
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No, the gas is part of what makes the vehicle ready to drive, so it is included in curb weight and thus not the payload. To get the precise payload value for the truck, weigh it with a full tank or add an allowance for additional fuel to the scale reading.
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09-26-2015, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Our published payload was 1960 lbs. Weighing the truck and subtracting from GVWR gave us a result of 2005 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
How would options add up to #00 lbs? Most of my options are decorative. The 20" tires, up from the 18" stock would be about the only big thing, and that can't be 100 lbs total.
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Depending on the source, perhaps Robert's published payload allowed for the worst case in options... or he weighed the truck with an empty fuel tank.
You might be surprised how much heavier 20" wheels are than the 18", and if the 20" tires were wider (they often are, but in this case both are 275 mm wide) they would likely be heavier. I wouldn't be very surprised by a 25 pound per corner difference with a width difference, but it does seem like a lot in this case.
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09-26-2015, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I just checked that tire sticker, and it says 1,646 lbs. There are really no changes, other than the tires that should change it that much, I would think. Maybe I will still find a scale, and just weight it.
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I can see how that might have a bit of an effect on towing, with the 2" bigger tires, but not payload, as that is weight acting downwards.
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The heavier wheels and tires reduce payload. The 2" larger wheel diameter is irrelevant by itself, since the shorter tire sidewalls result in the same overall tire diameter as the 18" setup (and not by accident), so overall effective gearing is not changed.
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09-26-2015, 09:03 PM
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Jim what did you get for a motor, conflicting info in this thread?
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09-26-2015, 09:04 PM
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3.5L EcoBoost.
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09-26-2015, 09:27 PM
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That's what I thought, need to edit your signature line. FWIW, the yellow sticker was correct when I had my F150 weighed.
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09-26-2015, 09:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
That's what I thought, need to edit your signature line. FWIW, the yellow sticker was correct when I had my F150 weighed.
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Oh yeah, thanks. Anna-Marie told me to in a PM a couple days ago, and I forgot.
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09-27-2015, 12:32 AM
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According to the Ford Canada F-150 Towing specs page, of the three levels of GVWR/payload available for this cab/box/4x4 combination, only the lowest (the one Jim has) is available with the 20" wheels. Getting more GVWR and payload requires more serious working wheels and rubber, rather than the "sporty/trendy" low-profile setup; the highest payload is only for the 18" wheels. The 20" setup may be the nicest to drive for applications that don't require maximum payload.
The base wheels - even for this cab/box/engine combination - are 17", so there might be more of a weight difference to the 20" setup than there would be between 18" and 20". With the Lariat, you start with 18" and can upgrade to 20".
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09-27-2015, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Wow, news to me. I held off as long as possible buying my last Ranger. Gave up hoping they'd change their mind about continuing on with it. Bought one of the last ones available.
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I had a 1990 Ford Ranger with a V6, the first year they used that drivetrain. I would have considered another one as a TV if they were still sold in the U.S.
I drove that truck for eighteen years. I didn't mean to keep it that long, but not long after I bought it my girlfriend at the time complained that I didn't have any goals in life. I said, "well, okay; I'll drive my truck for twenty years. That's a goal." I almost made it. Meanwhile she left me for someone with more ambition.
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09-27-2015, 07:53 PM
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So Mike, what are your plans for next year
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09-27-2015, 09:19 PM
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Quote:
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So Mike, what are your plans for next year
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I'd like to go to Nova Scotia, but it's too early to tell when/if I'll do it. If I go, it will probably be in late summer / early fall.
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09-28-2015, 06:46 AM
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Same here, maybe we will meet again up there, keep in touch.
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