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Old 07-21-2015, 08:34 AM   #11
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You *can* get an additional fresh water tank inside the trailer under the bed - someone posted it on the forum - for winter camping I think.
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:41 AM   #12
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You *can* get an additional fresh water tank inside the trailer under the bed - someone posted it on the forum - for winter camping I think.
Actually I think it is the stock tank that they may install under the bed in lieu of outside underneath. Otherwise with dual fresh water tanks full, that far back would dramatically change your tongue weight.
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:48 AM   #13
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We have seen a 2013 19' twice now (bless Herb and Lois for their patience!), and have the opportunity to see a 21' this coming weekend. However, I keep reading "I had this or that done" and then everyone says "Shoot! why didn't I think of that?!" So I'm trying to ferret out all those questions before I do one of these . Granted, I have a long time (a year) to ask and get the answers to life's great perplexities, "shelf or no shelve in the wardrobe?" but it sure drives me crazy until I know...
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:40 AM   #14
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I definitely would not put 4 bikes on the back of a trailer regardless of what rack is used, as you are putting too much weight on the receiver, with the center of gravity of the load moving further reward. Not only would the trailer's receiver not likely handle it, it would reduce the tongue weight to an unsafe level.

I have used my 1UP with 2 bikes a fair bit now, and even with the Andersen WDH, and a focus on keeping loaded weight forward, I still notice its effect on my Pilot. With my F-350 though, I feel nothing (at all ).

I would suggest the other two bikes be roof mounted on the tow.
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Old 07-21-2015, 09:46 AM   #15
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There would be too much weight even if we got 2 6v batteries which, as I understand, go in the storage box on the front? Don't those weigh a fair amount? I only have knowledge of how much my car battery weighs...no idea if the 6v weigh more or less. I was thinking that even 1 car battery comes close to weighing what 2 bikes would weigh...
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There would be too much weight even if we got 2 6v batteries which, as I understand, go in the storage box on the front? Don't those weigh a fair amount? I only have knowledge of how much my car battery weighs...no idea if the 6v weigh more or less. I was thinking that even 1 car battery comes close to weighing what 2 bikes would weigh...
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There would be too much weight even if we got 2 6v batteries which, as I understand, go in the storage box on the front? Don't those weigh a fair amount? I only have knowledge of how much my car battery weighs...no idea if the 6v weigh more or less. I was thinking that even 1 car battery comes close to weighing what 2 bikes would weigh...
I added concrete blocks in a front box depending on how many bikes I hung on the back of our Scamp. But I had to be careful with the single axle overload. On the 19' and '21 with dual axles you have plenty of reserve capacity on those axles to carry bikes and ballast.
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Nathan,
There are 2 areas of weight concern, the trailer tongue weight has to be kept to a point where there is no sway and the weight on the rear hitch receiver should not exceed 100 lbs I believe. 4 bikes and the hitch may well go beyond that. In addition there is a 100 lb weight limit in the front box, so adding concrete blocks is not a good idea either.
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:37 AM   #19
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Is the weight limit on the hitch due to the fact that the hitch is not welded to the frame, but rather welded to the bumper? I know that is the case on the Casita and they used to say do not add a hitch because the bumper was not strong enough but now on their website they say that a hitch and or weight can be added if the support for it was welded to the frame. May be subtle differences with not so subtle outcomes...
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Old 07-21-2015, 11:50 AM   #20
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Perhaps Escape can weld some extra, contact them for weight limits.
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