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07-21-2015, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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The game of 21 Questions
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Originally Posted by gbaglo
Measure and post a picture.
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Took pics for you . Almost was going to remove table . Instead cut it down so it can stay up all the time and a little more counter . Is not in the way going in and out of door . I cut mine down to 8 In wide . Maybe you can see next to wall put curved piece from cut out to stop water from running down there with the scrap piece . Underneath is a folding door to keep my dogs from screen which when someone comes over they tried to jump through . I also can get to the plug now . Works for us . Pat
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07-21-2015, 11:04 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Pictures make the difference.
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07-21-2015, 01:03 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Pat,
Is that a dog gate I see below the stooge table?
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07-21-2015, 01:52 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Pat,
Is that a dog gate I see below the stooge table?
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Yes Jim . Bought for 2.00 at garage sale . It was a baby gate . Cut in half , put a hinges in middle so it folds to side if I need . Use my grey vinyl with snaps to hold it closed to wall . If you want later can take better pics . Pat
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07-21-2015, 02:47 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Midcoast, Maine
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 435
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I was reluctant to email Escape, because the kind folks here suggested (not to me, in another thread somewhere, unless I dreamed it, which could be the case since I am so immersed in all this at the moment ) that they were busy and people here could answer a lot of questions. However, with the replies to this thread including "ask Escape", I had to in order to get the answers.
I asked 5 questions, here they are and the answers:
1. Can the larger 21' holding tanks be put on the 19'?
no, the molds for each trailer are built specifically to accommodate their respective holding tanks.
2. Can white-framed windows be installed on the trailer, or is the black trim the only option?
Black is the only option for the window frames
3. Can a different stove vent be added? Specifically the "Endura Stove Vent"
No, we will only install our standard stove vent
4. Can speakers be added and wired without having your stereo being installed, since we stream our music?
We can install speakers only and pre-wire for the stereo
5. Is it possible to have a SMEV stove or sink installed? Is that something you can order?
We have done this before, please send pictures /links to the ones you are considering.
Please feel free to forward any other questions you may have.
I am a little surprised that they won't install the vent, as I could supply it to them in plenty of time. The rest are good confirmation. Of course, after we do our deposit thing, maybe Reace could be convinced. Or, it may be that way due to the actual vent size on the stove?....I'm a slow learner...
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07-21-2015, 04:34 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Took pics for you . Almost was going to remove table . Instead cut it down so it can stay up all the time and a little more counter . Is not in the way going in and out of door . I cut mine down to 8 In wide . Maybe you can see next to wall put curved piece from cut out to stop water from running down there with the scrap piece . Underneath is a folding door to keep my dogs from screen which when someone comes over they tried to jump through . I also can get to the plug now . Works for us . Pat
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Good idea to have that table changed. We have an extra one on order but do not want to put it there partly because it is too big for there. Probably will be near the bed.
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07-21-2015, 04:40 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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On the stove vent, I would expect that they are required to install an appliance with its own parts, not something else. They come under all kinds of requirements for what they are installing and where. They have plans they submit.
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07-21-2015, 06:56 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Midcoast, Maine
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 435
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As to the outside vent cover, I guess if I had THAT much of an attachment to it, I could have a local boat yard resize the opening in the fiberglass and install the new one. Sound like a lot of work and expense for such an inconsequential thing...
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07-21-2015, 06:58 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanj04011
As to the outside vent cover, I guess if I had THAT much of an attachment to it, I could have a local boat yard resize the opening in the fiberglass and install the new one. Sound like a lot of work and expense for such an inconsequential thing...
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You could easily do it yourself too. I had to replace one on a previous trailer, and it was quite easy.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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07-21-2015, 08:08 PM
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#30
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Stove vent may have to do with the thickness of the vent body. At 1 1/2 inches, it would work for a stickie due the framing thickness, but you don't have that thickness on a fiberglass trailer. It would stick way out from the wall in an Escape.
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07-21-2015, 08:21 PM
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#31
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Trailer: Scamp 2010 D19
Posts: 20
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The Endura is available for a thin wall. I installed one on our Scamp last year. Easy, as long as you don't mind cutting holes in your shell. Pictures of the installation are on the blog at http://justfinding.blogspot.com/2014...d-exhaust-vent.
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07-21-2015, 09:19 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Midcoast, Maine
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 435
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Ok CPACharlie, here's number 8...just in case you are still counting...
Has anyone expressed, or contemplated spraying that rhino-liner stuff they put in the wheel wells on the underside of the trailer? I think that it could be a fabulous protector of all the metal parts, as well as provide some insulation.
Well, I think it is fabulous until someone tells me why it's not and I then will have to proceed to question 9.... Actually, if it's dumb, I have also thought about spraying Fluid Film on the underside-if we don't go with the standard insulation.
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07-21-2015, 09:26 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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I was just under my 19 today checking out gas and electrical lines, and looking everything over. Other than being a little bit dusty, there is absolutely no damage at all to any of the components. My trailer has seen lots of gravel roads too. The front is what shows the wear the most.
Reace does use Line-X coatings on the storage boxes. I have contemplated using it on the front of my trailer too. Like Rhino Linings a very tough coating. I doubt very much if there is any insulation value to any of these linings.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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07-21-2015, 09:50 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanj04011
Don't those weigh a fair amount? I only have knowledge of how much my car battery weighs...no idea if the 6v weigh more or less.
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The 6V batteries supplied by Escape are the GC2 size, and are much heavier than a typical car battery (although car batteries vary greatly in size).
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Originally Posted by nathanj04011
There would be too much weight even if we got 2 6v batteries which, as I understand, go in the storage box on the front?
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I was thinking that even 1 car battery comes close to weighing what 2 bikes would weigh...
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If you are just balancing weight on the ends against each other to reach a specific tongue weight, that can work.
The problem is that this is not the only consideration. In addition to structural concerns, the more the mass is placed out toward the ends of the trailer, the worse the effect on stability.
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Originally Posted by Klem
I added concrete blocks in a front box depending on how many bikes I hung on the back of our Scamp.
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That's the definition of how to reduce the stability of a trailer. I'm glad you got away with it, but don't bet on it with another (especially longer) trailer.
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07-25-2015, 06:33 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Midcoast, Maine
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0 TA
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Here's number 9...What type of tires does Escape use? I was just watching some of the "long long honeymoon" youtube episodes, (very fun and informative even if a person already knows what they are telling) and they had 2 blowouts on their Airstream, and both were the ever-cursed Goodyear Marathons. I'm hoping those aren't on the Escapes...I put Maxxis LT tires on my Casita after a blow out, and they have done splendidly.
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07-25-2015, 06:44 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Used to be Marathons, but got too pricey. Now Carlisle.
My Marathons were trouble free for seven years, when I replaced them for age.
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07-25-2015, 06:45 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanj04011
Here's number 9...What type of tires does Escape use?
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Escape switched from Goodyear (Marathon, their only ST model) to Carlisle (Radial Trail RH model) a while ago. This was not a quality issue, just a matter of pricing from the tire suppliers.
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Originally Posted by nathanj04011
I was just watching some of the "long long honeymoon" youtube episodes, (very fun and informative even if a person already knows what they are telling) and they had 2 blowouts on their Airstream, and both were the ever-cursed Goodyear Marathons. I'm hoping those aren't on the Escapes...
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I don't think there's any particularly good brand of ST tires, but I'm sure that many have an undeservedly bad reputation because people kill them with overloading. Fortunately Escapes have relatively large tires for the weight of the trailer, so the tires are not heavily loaded and are less likely to be accidentally overloaded for their inflation pressure.
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Originally Posted by nathanj04011
I put Maxxis LT tires on my Casita after a blow out, and they have done splendidly.
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Before they went to a larger tire size, Casita 17's were infamous for tire failures and the use of alternative types of tire became somewhat common. Any mention of non-ST tires on a trailer in these forums risks launching an intense debate... might be good to avoid.
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07-25-2015, 06:50 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Midcoast, Maine
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 435
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Thanks for the heads up Brian! "How 'bout them Cowboys?!"
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07-25-2015, 08:54 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanj04011
Thanks for the heads up Brian! "How 'bout them Cowboys?!"
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Weather wimps!
They going to their training camp in Oxnard. 73° and sunny.
(And, of course, no rain.)
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07-28-2015, 07:31 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Midcoast, Maine
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 435
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Question 10...Can any/all of the opening windows be the awning style, or must they be the slide? Or does it matter? If there are some that can and others that can't, which would they be? Would that be a custom install charge?
And while that's technically more questions than 1, since it is all regarding the same thing, I'll count it as 1...
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