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Old 01-19-2016, 05:26 PM   #11
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Here is a "smart phone" blue tooth battery monitor, no wiring needed.....Batterycheck - Wireless RV & Marine Battery Management.
Hmm, Jim that looks interesting. Have you installed that unit?
I still have my trimetric sitting on a shelf out in the garage. Been too lazy to install the shunt and wasn’t too keen on cutting a hole above the fridge to install the monitor. So far I’ve been using a 12 volt plug in monitor with good success. May have to have a closer look at this. Thanks. Scott

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Old 01-19-2016, 05:38 PM   #12
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On #18, they install a light to show that the propane is on on the water heater and they install a switch inside to turn the propane on for it. They will not install a light to show that electric is on and will not install a switch inside to turn electric on for the water heater. I wonder why not but they won't. So we have the propane switch and light inside put in by them.

So you have to go outside to run the water heater on electric. Unless you do a mod.
Okay, I understand the first paragraph of what you wrote, as Sarah at ETI did explain that to me.

I don't understand the second part though. Do you mean you have to go outside because you're hooking up to shore power? Or is the electric switch outside? I didn't get into that aspect of the equipment on the trailer as it was cold out and Dirk's got a cold. Maybe next trip it'll be warmer.

And what sort of mod are you talking about?

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Old 01-19-2016, 05:41 PM   #13
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You have to go outside to turn on the water heater using a switch inside the exterior compartment. And to turn it off. We turn it on and off in an hour in the morning and in evening as the water will stay hot a long time.

People have shown a mod where they wire into the inside of the trailer to be able to turn the water heater on, on the inside. Since Escape will not do that, I would find out why. Is there a code reason?
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:55 PM   #14
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Laura, The problem with the outside switch, other then the hassle of going outside to turn it on and off, is you forget you have it on. Not a big deal by itself unless you don't think of it and empty the HW heater, like when you get home. If you hook up power to the trailer with the forgotten switch on, and the heater empty, you can smoke the element. At least that's my understanding. I've NOT heard of anyone actually doing such.

On Edit... I wonder if doing the mod nullifies the heaters warranty, if so that may be why ETI wants no part of it. You are cutting the wire to the manufactures built in power switch.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:59 PM   #15
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I have heard of many people ruining their elements including on this forum, however, you will fill the hot water tank and then may keep it filled the entire season until emptying for winterizing. So the element problem is in the spring usually. Make sure you fill the water tank before turning on the heater when first using the trailer in spring. Some carry an extra element as ruining them is pretty common.

Yes, that mod likely affects the warranty. Also, Escape may not be allowed to make such a mod as far as their building requirements. Don't know.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:59 PM   #16
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Yeah, I could see myself easily forgetting it was on. What a hassle to have to go outside and all that. Better make sure my PJs are up to public viewing!
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:03 PM   #17
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Laura, The problem with the outside switch, other then the hassle of going outside to turn it on and off, is you forget you have it on. Not a big deal by itself unless you don't think of it and empty the HW heater, like when you get home. If you hook up power to the trailer with the forgotten switch on, and the heater empty, you can smoke the element. At least that's my understanding. I've NOT heard of anyone actually doing such.
I have done that. We had the water heater winterized, left the switch on, because I just forgot to turn it off. In the spring we headed out to camp, and I just plain goofed up and plugged the trailer in before I hooked up the water. Poof! the element was gone. I paid an RV place about $100 to fix it, but now I know how to fix it myself if that happens again. So I think it will only cost me about $25.00 in the future. On the other hand, I tend to learn from my mistakes and now make sure I turn the electrical switch off unless we are actually using the electricity. I know that it is a fairly easy mod to install an inside switch. I just need to do it some summer day. I wish that Escape would offer that as an option
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In all fairness, the RV place did some other work that was included in that $100.00 So it isn't as bad as it sounds
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Once I have sanitized the system in the spring and filled the hot water tank, I just leave the outside electric switch on. If we are connected to shore power, the electric hot water heater heats up. If we are (much more frequently) without shore power, we just turn the LP switch on and off in side the trailer as we need hot water. The outside electric switch has no effect when you are not on shore power, running off LP.

For safety whenever I empty the hot water tank I switch off its breaker AND the exterior switch.
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Yes, it's quite common to burn the element out on the dual's. PO on my 17b smoked it and it wasn't too expensive to replace the element but it never worked and I didn't want to track it down. The propane works great so I just went with the propane only WH on the 19, less to worry about. Don't think the savings on having the dual would amount to much but everyone has their own methodology.
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