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01-16-2016, 03:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19
Posts: 555
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Originally Posted by Greggo
I'd be (very) happy if Escape continued to offer the same unparalleled customizing opportunities after their expansion.
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I agree, I just hope ETI keeps up with the same approach to customer satisfaction as they expand their business. They are a great company to work with and this forum is a great example of satisfied customers.
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01-16-2016, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
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Double Step
Did a little digging, the original looks like Elkhart tools #120 Elkhart Tool and Die : Single RV Step - RV Steps Since 1954 - Continuous Hinges - Custom Metal Fab
They have a double step (#920) that looks like it'd fit the existing bracket but folded up it hangs 2" lower then the 120. For $120 off Amazon I might look into it come spring. Be nicer then lugging around a step.
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01-16-2016, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Hopefully Escape will not follow Airstream which includes a long list of standard items but no changes can be had.
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01-16-2016, 03:17 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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What new features would you like?
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Hopefully Escape will not follow Airstream which includes a long list of standard items but no changes can be had.
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Well put. They do an amazing job keeping options as options - although many items that used to be options are now standard because everyone seems to choose them. Customization is key - I don't want someone else's idea of the perfect trailer. Although, I'll admit, a stock 19 would have been perfectly acceptable.
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01-16-2016, 03:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sacramento area, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 525
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My 2 cents worth? We haven't used our trailer yet but it sure looks like an option for a deeper sink would be better. And I would have liked the option for white or lighter colored cabinets.
Escape is so flexible about allowing us to send our own things like sinks and faucets. For those things that are often replaced (ex. kitchen one handle spray faucet?) it would be nice if they provided the alternative so we don't have to deal with shipping from the US and customs etc. And for many of those options that are not on the list, it would be helpful to see them on the list
But as a business, it makes sense I think to keep these things as options. That way someone who wants the quality and function of a basic Escape trailer can still get that at an affordable price. And someone who wants all the bells and whistles and doesn't mind paying for it can get what they want too. Especially with the value of $CAD dropping (or is it $USD rising?) they need a way to keep both their Canadian and US customers happy. Escape has figured out how to keep track of a myriad of options and build the trailer correctly. They should continue to capitalize on that. IMHO
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01-16-2016, 03:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Trailer: 2015 17A - Ready for more Maiden Voyages ....
Posts: 881
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I'm hoping that the changes with expansion be "no change". They are doing a great job as is. What my fear could be is like your favorite restaurant that serves really good food at a reasonable price and then gets a liquor license .... now the food becomes of lessor quality and taste with much higher prices.
I don't mind so much paying for quality but I have no interest in paying for cheap or poor function.
Tom
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01-16-2016, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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The deeper the sink, the less storage in the cupboard under it.
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01-16-2016, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
The deeper the sink, the less storage in the cupboard under it.
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and the volume of water usage increases thus your capacity decreases....
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01-16-2016, 04:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Hopefully Escape will not follow Airstream which includes a long list of standard items but no changes can be had.
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And Escape already offers FAR more options and customization than any other fiberglass manufacturer.
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01-16-2016, 04:23 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Central, Alberta
Trailer: Bigfoot
Posts: 8
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I really like the a la carte ordering and, though we don't yet have a trailer, it seems Escape is doing a great job offering flexibility and quality.
Options I'd use but don't currently see as available:
- on-demand tankless water heater (propane only is fine)
- larger solar array, ie option to have Escape add more panels.
- sliding bathroom door.
- larger freshwater capacity option (30 or 35gallon on the 19, for example)
- toilet delete option
These are largely specific to our use, of extended off-grid camping, so I don't see it as appropriate to make them standard (especially the last!).
And one other thing.... An Escape 17 with the headroom of the other trailers! The 17 works for us in other ways, but I can't stand up in it. Unfortunately, this is a big ask, I'm sure, as a new mold would be needed.
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01-16-2016, 04:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alaska, Washington
Trailer: 2014 5.0 TA
Posts: 451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
And Escape already offers FAR more options and customization than any other fiberglass manufacturer.
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This, after two seasons of use our trailer still brings smiles to our faces. Scott
Scott, Lori and a Schnauzer named Fritz
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01-16-2016, 04:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Lots of discussion on "on demand water heater". I've read that water is wasted getting up to temperature. I consider the standard water heater to be "on demand". I turn it on for half an hour in the morning, then off, and have hot water on demand until time to do dinner dishes.
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01-16-2016, 04:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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As fas as the sink, I find too much water on the counters from turning on/off the water. Perhaps a sink with the faucet integrated into it with one faucet would keep the water in the sink. A step light as well as hookup light would be a nice addition for better night time visibility.
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01-16-2016, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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Having owned a trailer with the on demand water, like Glenn says, you waste a lot of water setting the temperature which is one by adjusting the flow of water, low flow allows hotter, higher flow is cooler.
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01-16-2016, 05:04 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
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I put that step on my 21 due wifey's bum knee. Works well.
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01-16-2016, 05:05 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
- toilet delete option
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Kinda like the on a train in the old days? See if you can hit a tie?
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01-16-2016, 05:08 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Kinda like the on a train in the old days? See if you can hit a tie?
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I haven't thought of that for years. As a kid the first time I flushed and realized it was going right onto the tracks, it made me think about all the time we spent walking on the tracks....
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01-16-2016, 05:16 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,794
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Lots of discussion on "on demand water heater". I've read that water is wasted getting up to temperature. I consider the standard water heater to be "on demand". I turn it on for half an hour in the morning, then off, and have hot water on demand until time to do dinner dishes.
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Yup, pretty much agree with that. I've used them for years on boats and used to import them. They've got pluses and minuses. The fact that I've got one, new in the box, and haven't installed it in my Escape pretty much sums it up.
Ron
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01-16-2016, 05:26 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tractors1
I put that step on my 21 due wifey's bum knee. Works well.
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Any downside?
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01-16-2016, 05:27 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Less clearance was mentioned, I believe.
Any chance of a photograph with step deployed?
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