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Old 10-29-2014, 12:11 PM   #31
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The kitchen and bath opening windows are 2 options that really are worth the extra . As said before kitchen window is used the most . The bath is very handy also when dumping black tank - you can feed a hose through window to flush tank .
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:17 PM   #32
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Alot of our original decisions about options were made without consulting people who had actually used them. The opening vs non-opening window was one of them. After talking to lots of folks with the opening window, they wouldn't be with out it. That changed our mind.
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:52 PM   #33
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It wasn't an option when we bought, but seriously, it has never been an issue. Lots and lots of ventilation available without it. If buying now, I would likely forgo the option. Rarely have we had more than two of our 5 venting windows opened at a time anyway.

I also prefer the weather seal a fixed window gives over a slider. Not that much of a difference in our trailers, but every bit counts.
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:55 PM   #34
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For us, the opening kitchen window is used more consistently than any other single window in the trailer. Have never noticed any obstruction of light from the frame, probably because as said above, the other windows provide lots of light. If we did it again, I would still choose the opening window.
We wish we had the opening one. I think it is a little bigger than the non-opening. We looked at the view issue with someone's opening window and decided it was not a problem, at least not nearly as much as not being able to open that window.

I first thought I preferred non-opening because of the double pain but now want opening.

As ice-breaker says, the kitchen window may be used the most for the simple reason that that is the one you use when up and about and preparing food and more. Some people have replaced the non-opening with opening and like the opening one better. if the awning happens to be up and it's raining, that window is covered.
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Old 05-24-2015, 01:04 PM   #35
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Opening kitchen window

It didn't take us long to decide to add the extra kitchen window to the 17B we just purchased used. Can't have too much light in the trailer. Having migrated from a Boler 13, which has lots of windows & light, and shopping the current crop of lightweight/compact trailers before finding the Escape, we were discouraged by how dark and "dungeony" all of them were. One RV salesperson offered the opinion that eliminating windows was a significant cost-saving measure in a marketplace driven primarily by shoppers' budget constraints.
After considering all the pros & cons expressed on this site (thanks everyone for your thoughts), we opted for the opening window. But my wife nixed the idea of the bathroom window.

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Old 05-24-2015, 01:31 PM   #36
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It didn't take us long to decide to add the extra kitchen window to the 17B we just purchased used. Can't have too much light in the trailer. Having migrated from a Boler 13, which has lots of windows & light, and shopping the current crop of lightweight/compact trailers before finding the Escape, we were discouraged by how dark and "dungeony" all of them were. One RV salesperson offered the opinion that eliminating windows was a significant cost-saving measure in a marketplace driven primarily by shoppers' budget constraints.
After considering all the pros & cons expressed on this site (thanks everyone for your thoughts), we opted for the opening window. But my wife nixed the idea of the bathroom window.

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Windows do add cost, but in the Case of Escape, I think it's negligible. We LOVE the opening window over the sink. Since the bottom tilts out when open, we pretty much leave it open all the time. Nice cross ventilation with the Maxx Fan.

We also love the extra light by having the bathroom window. It also makes it handy to run a hose through the window and attach it to your tank wand when you want to clean out the black tank. No running a hose through the front door. It's a frosted window, so there's no privacy issue.

I would definitely recommend both an opening window in the kitchen and another in the bathroom for anyone looking at their options sheet.
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:50 PM   #37
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Might have missed one. Will call Crystal in the morning and ask about the window opening over the kitchen counter. The 21 build sheet might not be complete yet. You keep reading about things that other people wouldn't be without and aren't on the official build sheet of options, so it makes for hard choices. As for other things, I say better to have and not need than need and not have. Loren.
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Opening kitchen window is standard on the 21s....
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:37 PM   #39
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The more windows the better IMHO.
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Once again, it's a matter of camping style. I have enough windows that open for ventilation (five) so the enhanced view and incoming light are a no-brainer for me.
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