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Old 03-16-2019, 12:23 AM   #1
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Question 2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

Hi all

First time pickup buyer. We will custom order a 2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat
A Hallmark pop up camper will be in it 99.999 % of the time. Currently learning about what options / packages we want.

Some smart pickup truck owners here I bet.

A few questions to help guide me…

Do I care about Fog Lamps? (does anyone ever use them?)

Do we care about Pedals: * Power Adjustable…?
My wife and I share driving when going camping.
Do the driver memories recall the Power Pedals?

Do we need to be Lariat to get power seats and power seat memories? I can’t figure this out.

I didn’t see heated and cooled seats listed anywhere on Lariat specs…. do we need to go higher to get heated and cooled seats? :-(

Do we want to get the 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle?
I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500 lb + truck camper on the back, plus cargo…?

If we move to the midwest (a possibility) … would we want the remote start option, so we can warm up the F350 before getting in it?

How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches?

with the vehicle (below) configured as we like, Ford offers either LT275/70R x 18E BSW A/T 4X4 tires

or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires.
what tires should i get?
I would MUCH rather have the tires come from Ford, from the start, and not have to change them out, and sell the stock tires.

By the way - we always use our cell phones for Navigation (Waze or Google Nav) so we have no use for a built in NAV. Any way to somehow NOT get it, to save $?

* * * * * For what it is worth - this is the type of pickup + options we are looking at: * * *

F-350 - 2020. Custom ordered.
Crew Cab (4 real doors, most space)
6.2L gas
176” Wheelbase (max)
8 foot bed.
4x4
Single Rear Wheel (SRW)
gas.

4.3 Electronic Locking Axle (I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo)

FX4 Off Road Package (comes with Skid Plates :* Transfer Case and Fuel Tank)

Snow Plow / Camper Package.

11,400 GVWR package (or whatever is max GVWR)

Rear Window - privacy glass.

Medium Duty Battery (a second battery)

Alternator * Extra Extra Heavy*Duty

LED Roof Marker/Clearance Lamps

Front 40/20/40 Split Bench Seats (not front console) so driver can exit passenger side if need be. (this is important to us with our current narrow driveway)

Inflatable Rear Outboard Safety Belts (Crew Cab®) - for our daughter.

Cruise Control

Power Equipment * Power Door Locks and Windows
Steering Wheel * Audio Controls
Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel

48 Gallon Fuel Tank – 176" Wheelbase
Integrated Trailer Brake Controller
Trailer Hitch Receiver – 2.5" Built Ford Tough® Trailer Hitch Receiver (SRW)

Hill descent would be very nice. A part of tow package I believe.

stuff John REALLY wants:

Adaptive Cruise Control (Lariat I think? Unsure)

Platform Running Boards (best if Ford does them. Less hassle, and not “modified” $445 2019.)

SYNC® 3 for Apple Car Play

have been advised to get:
Upfitter Switches $165 in 2019

Thanks!

John
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If I had the need for an F350, I would be getting the diesel. If you move to the midwest you will need a block heater before you need the remote start. Just check all the option boxes and you will have no problems.
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I have a 2002 F250 XLT. i'm happy enough with XLT, the additional gadgetry in a Lariat is more stuff to get flakey as it gets older. plus I rather dislike all the digital stuff in new cars (and I'm a recently retired computer engineer).

I use my fog lamps quite a lot driving twisty mountain roads at night, where the high beams are too bright and high. I also use them in both rainy and foggy weather, both on my truck and cars.. I need to get some yellow bulbs for them, I have those on my cars and I find that helps in dense low fog. I wish I had LED projector headlights, my 2002 has halogen parabolic reflector lamps.

My XLT has the power pedals, and they really help my wife, who has very short legs. if she had to move the seat up to reach the pedals, the steering wheel would be in her belly.

my XLT has a power driver seat, and a manual passenger seat, without memory. it has the split bucket/bench where the wide center arm rest folds up for a 3rd seating position, which we've used a couple times.

Since our kids are grown and gone and we rarely have passengers, we opted for the 'supercab' rather than the full crew cab, and htat half back seat space is mostly used for carrying personal goods. the supercab longbed has a shorter wheelbase than the supercrew longbed, so the turning radius is a bit better.

my 2002 F250 longbed 7.3 diesel has a 38 gallon tank, that was standard with a longbed.

mine is a 4x4 w/o the FX4 option.

it has the standard ford running boards, not the retracting ones, I think they came with the Lariat package.

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If I had the need for an F350, I would be getting the diesel. If you move to the midwest you will need a block heater before you need the remote start. Just check all the option boxes and you will have no problems.
Thanks for the thoughts. Appreciated.

and... for us.... the gas is much better than the diesel.

Diesel is about $9,000 more, and we'd never do enough mileage to make up that $9,000 (if i am recalling correctly)

Not full time camping / driving.

plus the diesel is about 900 lbs heavier (if i am recalling correctly) and so we then lose 900 lbs of carrying capacity - that hurts us with a 2,500 lb Hallmark Pop Up camper in the back, plus cargo.



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I have a 2002 F250 XLT. i'm happy enough with XLT, the additional gadgetry in a Lariat is more stuff to get flakey as it gets older. plus I rather dislike all the digital stuff in new cars (and I'm a recently retired computer engineer).

I use my fog lamps quite a lot driving twisty mountain roads at night, where the high beams are too bright and high. I also use them in both rainy and foggy weather, both on my truck and cars.. I need to get some yellow bulbs for them, I have those on my cars and I find that helps in dense low fog. I wish I had LED projector headlights, my 2002 has halogen parabolic reflector lamps.

My XLT has the power pedals, and they really help my wife, who has very short legs. if she had to move the seat up to reach the pedals, the steering wheel would be in her belly.

my XLT has a power driver seat, and a manual passenger seat, without memory. it has the split bucket/bench where the wide center arm rest folds up for a 3rd seating position, which we've used a couple times.

Since our kids are grown and gone and we rarely have passengers, we opted for the 'supercab' rather than the full crew cab, and htat half back seat space is mostly used for carrying personal goods. the supercab longbed has a shorter wheelbase than the supercrew longbed, so the turning radius is a bit better.

my 2002 F250 longbed 7.3 diesel has a 38 gallon tank, that was standard with a longbed.

mine is a 4x4 w/o the FX4 option.

it has the standard ford running boards, not the retracting ones, I think they came with the Lariat package.

Thanks for all the info John - much appreciated.
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I think you'll find the gassers get much worse mileage when heavily loaded or towing while the diesels hardly change. I had a new 2001 E150 van with the 5.4 Triton V8 gasser, its mileage went way down when it was fully loaded, and even more towing our simple 2000 lb tent trailer. I don't know anything about the 6.2 gasser, presumably thats mated to the new 10-speed automatic which is supposed to be a superb transmission and they just introduced a 10R140 version for the superduty trucks (the F150 trucks and mustangs have been getting the 10R80 version for several years now).

i wanna put some rancho 7000 shocks on mine, and a fresh set of BFG KO2's in the stock LT265/75R16E ...
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2020 Ford F350 - XLT or Lariat / options guidance?

A word about navigation. Don’t be so quick to dismiss the factory navigation option. It offers one advantage over your phone: It has built in maps, which means it works without needing to constantly download needed maps from a cellular connection, which your phone relies on.

We didn’t want the built in navi on our 2016 F-150 either, but the only truck that our dealer could locate within 500 miles that met all our other requirements had it, so we just sucked it up. It turned out to be a fantastic tool. We went road tripping at that point for a year, favoring “the road less taken”, which meant that we might go a couple weeks at a time without cellular coverage. But every day that we moved, we used our trucks onboard GPS to plot that day’s goal and get us there. Worked great. Except for the time that it offered us a “shortcut” option over the Cupboard Mountains in Montana. That was a nail biter. And is also the reason that we now carry a chain saw when in Serious Adventure Mode.
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What does Ford charge for map updates? My buddy's Toyota costs $250 for western Canada and US and another $250 for eastern Canada and US.
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What does Ford charge for map updates? My buddy's Toyota costs $250 for western Canada and US and another $250 for eastern Canada and US.


I don’t know, but I know a guy who bought an updated map disc for a Mini Cooper from eBay for $50, versus the $600 that Mini wanted for it. It came postmarked from Romania. Possibly not entirely legal but the disc worked perfectly.

For me, I’m not going to worry too much about new maps for a few more years. Don’t find myself needing to navigate to new subdivisions too often.
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A word about navigation. Don’t be so quick to dismiss the factory navigation option. It offers one advantage over your phone: It has built in maps, which means it works without needing to constantly download needed maps from a cellular connection, which your phone relies on.

We didn’t want the built in navi on our 2016 F-150 either, but the only truck that our dealer could locate within 500 miles that met all our other requirements had it, so we just sucked it up. It turned out to be a fantastic tool. We went road tripping at that point for a year, favoring “the road less taken”, which meant that we might go a couple weeks at a time without cellular coverage. But every day that we moved, we used our trucks onboard GPS to plot that day’s goal and get us there. Worked great. Except for the time that it offered us a “shortcut” option over the Cupboard Mountains in Montana. That was a nail biter. And is also the reason that we now carry a chain saw when in Serious Adventure Mode.
Good point.... we have been places in the middle of nowhere, and having an old GPS unit was very very handy.

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