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Old 01-09-2017, 06:22 PM   #21
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Yes, paraffin or candle wax rubbed on the runners made them slick, similar to waxing your surf board....
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Surfing, I've seen it but never tried it. They were surfing on Lake Michigan at
Grand Haven Michigan last time I was there. The sea was angry that day my friend.
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I just love having 4 seasons, and am loving this winter here. We have had good snow for near a month now, and to warm chinook winds to melt it away and make everything yucky. A bit on the cold side, but I am more than willing to take it. It is just so darn beautiful.

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58 ....what's 58 ......I'm 70 , went tobogganing with my grandson last week , had to go down the hill on one of those plastic thingees with no padding at ground level .....I'm sure 58 is the new 35 .....
You're pretty hawt for a 70 year old, Gabi.

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No doubt? But at a very youthful 59, I am much younger than most here.
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Re, so damn beautiful...
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Old 01-12-2017, 09:56 AM   #25
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Now that is cool!!!! That's what I call "art"!
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Yes, paraffin or candle wax rubbed on the runners made them slick, similar to waxing your surf board....
actually, waxing a surf board is done on the top of a surf board not the bottom and is done to make the top of the surf board less slick and/or less slippery and increase the foot grip the surfer needs to stick to the board.
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actually, waxing a surf board is done on the top of a surf board not the bottom and is done to make the top of the surf board less slick and/or less slippery and increase the foot grip the surfer needs to stick to the board.
Yep, and a good wax job creates bumps on the top of the board, which makes it easier to grip.
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Then why does waxing your sled runners improve it's performance?
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Then why does waxing your sled runners improve it's performance?
Because you ski on the same side you wax. With surfing, you stand on the side you wax.
Have you not felt the tacky feel that wax can give your fingers? That same tackiness is what surfers want when they wax the top of their boards...to give them grip.
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Just seems counter intuitive, it creates sticky on one item and allows less friction on others.
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Just seems counter intuitive, it creates sticky on one item and allows less friction on others.
Well, the bottom of the board is what rides on the water. That's just slick fiberglass. All that's needed there is an occasional cleaning and perhaps polishing. Without a wax job on the top of the board, it would be really hard to stay on it when it's wet. Surfboard wax is intentionally tacky and meant to be applied thicker, without buffing it off. There are some boards with a "roughed up" top surface, but most surfers prefer old school.
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Then why does waxing your sled runners improve it's performance?
There are many types of wax. Cross country ski was is an example of both extremes. Like downhill skis, they are waxed with a hard wax that needs to be melted on, and then polished to give a smooth, fast run on the snow. The center of the X-C ski is the kick area, where you step when not gliding, where you need some grip. Here varying softness's of wax are used to serve this purpose, depending on the temperature, softer for warm, stiffer for cold.

You are right that sled runners get waxed, but with a hard was. Paraffin can work, but something much harder would be better. It was the same with old wood drawer slides, a bit of wax would see them slide much better.
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Yep, not all wax is created equal. As a downhill skier, I had about a half-dozen different types to apply to my skis depending on the snow conditions.
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We only had one type of wax in the house and my mother got mad when her candlesticks had grooves cut into their sides, I even tried to only do one side but she would catch me sooner or later. I then learned to just use the bottoms and she never saw the damage until the candles got shorter without being burned.
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Depends on the wax too. I had about six different waxes for cross-country skis. The wax needed to stick to the snow when climbing, but warms up enough when gliding to slide better.
I wouldn't bother waxing steel sled runners.
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My brother was a cross country skier and scientist. At least he thought he was. He had the wooden skis and a waxing kit and matched the snow temperature to the right wax. I remember my mom buying him the field kit to do this for Christmas about 40 years ago. Said he always wanted a pair of skis from the 10th Mountain Division. That's all I got.
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Well, the bottom of the board is what rides on the water. That's just slick fiberglass. All that's needed there is an occasional cleaning and perhaps polishing. Without a wax job on the top of the board, it would be really hard to stay on it when it's wet. Surfboard wax is intentionally tacky and meant to be applied thicker, without buffing it off. There are some boards with a "roughed up" top surface, but most surfers prefer old school.
I know (please don't ask) that surfers use a product call "Sex Wax"..... friction or no ...

What's with that?

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