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Old 11-11-2014, 08:15 PM   #31
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Your thoughts on the health risk aspect. Not on percentages of reviews or how many people use the product. Those numbers are not debatable. Whether or not there is a potential health risk is.
The health question isn't really debatable either. The Aeropress is BPA- and phthalate-free. Its just a matter of which method you prefer. The reviewers fears were unfounded IMHO.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:26 PM   #32
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The Aeropress is BPA- and phthalate-free. Its just a matter of which method you prefer. The reviewers fears were unfounded IMHO.
I'll admit that I haven't read the review in question, but what are they comparing too... a glass filter holder? An Italian espresso maker such as a Bialetti? Not many coffee makers are free of plastic; even the French presses often have plastic parts. There never seems to be a shortage of paranoia...
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I do understand you don't have any experience with this product so any review both positive or negative would be fuel for questions. In short the "real" AeroPress does not have any MESH associated with it. I have attached a picture of the components, the body, the plunger and the filter holder, which is a heavier plastic perforated cap.

There are "after market" reusable mesh filters and wire mesh filters available, these are not made by AeroPress but may be offered as part of a package by some suppliers. The plastic mesh filter MAY be what these reviews are speaking of. We only use the paper filters which are very inexpensive $7.00 for 350 filters so I, like you, do not have any experience with these reusable filters

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Old 11-11-2014, 08:34 PM   #34
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I will never use another coffee press because I am perfectly happy drinking coffee made from freshly ground beans brewed in a drip coffee maker.
I don't know why they would cringe. Although some have very specific preferences about the coffee maker, due to the water temperature, the drip-through-filter approach is quite popular... even among coffee connoisseurs. Maybe that's the problem: by at least one definition, a "snob" is more interested in appearing to have more refined tastes than in actually knowing anything about the subject.

I just like good coffee and enjoy clever machines.

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The only reason I posed the question is because several of the one star raters mentioned degradation of plastic mesh on the AeroPress. Admittedly, I don't even know how this piece of equipment uses plastic mesh. NO FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE. Those that did mention plastic mesh degrading did not strike me as disgruntled or idiotic. And they seemed to be merely recounting their personal experience and not attempting to discern quality vs. crap. One individual speaks of researching the mesh material and questions if he/she has been consuming something harmful to one's health. Reviews such as this give ME cause to take notice.
The "mesh" is the perforated surface of the AeroPress filter holder. The holes are big; this is not a filter that might degrade, just a holder - it's intact or it's broken. It would be hard to wreck this, but at the end of the pressing operation the plunger is trying to push the grounds through this holder, so gorilla-like users may have problems with breaking the thing.

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After I started my reply Ian posted his excellent response. He has a good point: there are aftermarket (not by Aerobie) permanent filters (in plastic and in stainless steel) available for use in place of the standard paper filter. To me, this would destroy much of the easy cleanup advantage, and the tiny bit of paper going into the compost bin (or even garbage) seems economically and environmentally reasonable to me, so I have no plan to bother with an alternative.
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:02 PM   #35
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We only use the paper filters which are very inexpensive $7.00 for 350 filters so I, like you, do not have any experience with these reusable filters
Plus, each paper filter is good for about 10 uses too. Lots of bang for the buck.

As mentioned earlier, we now use the stainless steel Able disk, in both our AeroPresses. It takes about an extra 2 seconds to wipe off when you are rinsing of the other components.
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Old 11-11-2014, 09:35 PM   #36
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Since Brian admits that he didn't read the review, I guess I can admit that I read the review some time ago and mistakenly "remembered" that the reviewer was talking about mesh of some sort. I was wrong. I found the review again and he/she is apparently referring to one of the plastic component parts of the AeroPress. And I am not accusing anyone of being a "snob." I want to be clear about that. Someone else introduced that term in the discussion. I do like good coffee myself. I just do not find all the extra effort to produce great coffee would be an acceptable compromise of my time, especially when I am on the road. I find the taste of Dunkin' Donuts coffee perfectly acceptable. Others would say Starbuck's is better. I jokingly tell people I go to Starbucks when I need kerosene for the lantern. Some would say they both suck! In almost every discussion I have been in on this forum, I have always posted with the philosophy of "each to their own," and that is exactly what I would say about the AeroPress. I am just trying to get people's thoughts, not to criticize their choices or get them to rethink their choices, and I hope everyone realizes that. Anyway, the following is the Amazon review in question:

Several years ago I bought this--the copolyester, BPA-free version--as a travel espresso maker. Despite the name and claims, it does not make real espresso. Period. Bit that is not the reason for this review.

I have since started drinking coffee in the winter, and I enjoy using this to make "filtered French press" coffee. The resulting coffee is milder and mellowed, but I have enjoyed using lighter roasted, brighter coffee beans.

So why my poor rating? The other day I took a closer look at the coffee-stained brewing chamber and realized that it was as rough as 30-grit sandpaper. Under a magnifying glass, I could see large crevices in the plastic brewing chamber. The plastic has been slowly disintegrating. Into my coffee.

So what is this "copolyster" that I have been drinking in my coffee? A quick online education reveals that "by introducing diacids or other diols to the polyester polyethylene terephthalate (PET), the material becomes a copolyester." The manufacturer of the AeroPress doesn't say much about the material other than claiming it won't leach phthalates. But polyesters ARE phthalates. Further, a literature review in 2009 published in Environmental Health Perspectives by Leonard Sax ("Polyethylene Terephthalate May Yield Endocrine Disruptors") revealed massive leaching of phthalates from PETs in hot environments (above 70 degrees C), particularly with acidic substances. Well, my coffee is well above 70C, and everyone's coffee is acidic. So I am left to conclude that I have likely been mega-dosing myself with endocrine-disrupting phthalates every morning for the past couple years! Do yourself a favor and brew in glass, stainless steel, porcelain, or similar material known to be inert at high temperatures!
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I think we may have to lay off the coffee and have some tea. People are getting jittery.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:56 PM   #38
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Sometimes the extra effort to produce great coffee - or even just different coffee - is a relaxing way to spend time, if only to provide a change of pace from a normal working day. It really is a matter of whatever works for the individual, and the situation.
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Coffee?

After 25 years of drinking airline coffee to keep awake or for something to do, I don't pay attention to what coffee tastes like but my wife seems to comment on all coffee in restaurants, usually negatively. After this discussion I ordered two of the items listed and thought we might see if we could find something that tastes good and gives us something to do each day, if we have time. Instead of drinking 4 cups, I can slowly make and drink two cups and she might let me use her kitchen stuff.
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I think we may have to lay off the coffee and have some tea. People are getting jittery.
Caffein is what makes one jittery. Tea also contains caffein. Need a better solution than tea!!!
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