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Old 05-03-2018, 08:01 AM   #1
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See many potential problems?

Granted, a couple good thoughts with it, but in reality......

https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.c...?sf188422054=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=55ICtiRxvCw
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:10 AM   #2
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See many potential problems?

Granted, a couple good thoughts with it, but in reality......

https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.c...?sf188422054=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=55ICtiRxvCw
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:17 AM   #3
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See many potential problems?

Granted, a couple good thoughts with it, but in reality......

https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.c...?sf188422054=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=55ICtiRxvCw
Origami-like trailers with hydraulics, little motors and miniature canal systems teaming up to provide hours of grief at the most inconvenient moment.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:18 AM   #4
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Very cute, but... Ask any owner of trailers with slide outs: Reality is finding out how big a problem insane reliance on hydraulics becomes your annual maintenance nuisance. Nothing new about that concept.
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:06 AM   #5
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My favorite are the ones that telescope out sideways instead of front and back, making them unusable at most north American campgrounds and RV parks.

That's OK, keep innovating. Every once in a great while someone comes up with a design that actually works and is practical.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:10 AM   #6
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I find the 'door' interesting ... or is it a door ... And, of course, there are other new and innovative campers.
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My nephew spend a long weekend waiting for an RV tech to come and fix the slides on his ginourmous sticky. Had to climb over furniture inside to get to the bathroom.
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On the other hand -- I can definitely understand the appeal. Our daughter is full timing in a Lance and with all those kids they just couldn't do it without the slideout. People want different things out of their trailers.
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Had to climb over furniture inside to get to the bathroom.
Oh well, some of us have to climb over people to get to the washroom.

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We were parked next to a Trailmanor at Organ Pipe. I knew that it collapsed down but for the life of me I couldn't figure out how. I came home and watched the video. It's pretty clever also, expands into a huge amount of extra space without using the dreaded slides.



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Old 05-03-2018, 12:48 PM   #10
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Hi: All... I want a trailer that packs up like a suitcase, tows like a boler, and lives in like a 5th. wheel. Oh wait a minute... I already have one!!! Escape 5.0TA. Alf
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:36 PM   #11
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On the other hand -- I can definitely understand the appeal. Our daughter is full timing in a Lance and with all those kids they just couldn't do it without the slideout. People want different things out of their trailers.
Hi Ruthe . We actually like the new Lance trailers and they are made here in Lancaster , California . There are a lot of nice features on them to like . Back in the day Lance was definetly a camper to own . Pat
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At Spring NOG and since, I now know of three couples/solos that are moving from Escape builds (two 17' and one 21') to the dark side One is buying a Lance and the other two the OutdoorsRV which is manufactured in Oregon. Their reasoning for the change is sound and they know what the issues may be. Life happens.
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California has certain environmental regs that my daughter tells me makes the Lance a little less toxic when it's outgassing, compared to other stick built trailers. that was part of the appeal -- plus the bunk room.
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People are always polite, but there are many who are amazed that we don't get on each other's nerves in such a small space. They're willing to put up with the inconveniences of an occasionally broken slide because otherwise they couldn't travel in an RV.

It's a balance sheet. When people travel it's always going to be different from home. Some of us can do REALLY different -- travel in a small trailer -- because we don't mind giving up the comforts when the trailer is so easy to tow, fits into just about any space, is small and easy to clean (and yes, I know, made so well) and is affordable given its attention to detail. Most RVers couldn't conceive of doing it our way.
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California has certain environmental regs that my daughter tells me makes the Lance a little less toxic when it's outgassing, compared to other stick built trailers. that was part of the appeal -- plus the bunk room.
The solo moving from an Escape 17' to an OutdoorsRV, wants a living room (inside) ME TOO dang it. She's buying the 21' and it has two recliners in the rear living space. SWOON. The only all-molded towable I know that's comparable is the Bigfoot Silver Cloud. But that sucker is heavy and they only built 12 in the mid-1980s.
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Owned 2 new Lance trailers, a Lance 1880 which had a defective roof filled with air bubbles and another, Lance 1575, the one with a slide that turns out had a defective motor. The slide issue is major in that there is no back up, you are dead in the water. Oh and they both leaked, brand new, off the the dealer's lot.
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We showed some people our trailer and they were considering an SOB. It had some of the worst reviews that I have ever seen. Don't want to mention any names but I have seen it on this forum. Those people did buy an Escape so maybe they saw some of the same comments on the other one. It usually does help to try to look at a lot of reviews.
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We were parked next to a Trailmanor at Organ Pipe. I knew that it collapsed down but for the life of me I couldn't figure out how. I came home and watched the video. It's pretty clever also, expands into a huge amount of extra space without using the dreaded slides.

That’s clever engineering for sure. Makes a quick stop for lunch or using the bathroom a bit of a pain. Like anything else there are compromises and it just depends on how you travel and your overall needs.
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People are always polite, but there are many who are amazed that we don't get on each other's nerves in such a small space. .
My wife and my relationship seems to improve when travelling in our relatively small trailer. Could be because we have to, or maybe because there is a lot less stress involved in what we are doing.
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I think if I we were fulltiming we might feel differently, but we are more than happy with the space in our 19. When we camp we know going in that we aren't taking our whole house with us, and that's part of the charm. Some friends here know that I'm in the process of having (what I hope is our last) home built near Canyon Lake in the Hill Country. We like nice things as much as the next guy. If we need big, and we need space, and we need luxury, all we'll have to do is stay home.

But camping is a completely different vibe, one we always look forward to. And there's nothing like waking up in the morning at a new and beautiful place and just admiring the view over a cup of coffee. I don't see how a bigger trailer would make that view any more enjoyable.
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